Hets a shaky venture?

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I've come from the hobbyist level and worked my way up to small scale breeder status over the last 10 years. I've been selling hets for a long time now and have never had a problem selling anything that I've offered for sale ... even before I had a "tiny" rep. The key is to be patient. It just takes time. You have to talk to people, be professional, and show your customers and potential customers "who" you are. Trust is earned not automatic, so get out there and earn it.

You're probably not going to believe me (cause I wouldn't have believed me 10 years ago) but selling hets isn't as hard as you think it is. Finding the right person to buy your hets from is much more difficult. The secret is that there are many more people looking for that "right person" than there are "right people" selling hets. You'll do fine.

-adam

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Thanks for that. There are several people on here that are showing me how to do it right (Kara, Adam, Tim, Jamie, Joe when he shows up) and great examples of how to do it wrong as well (I want name them). Its just that with all the scammers and shister involved in Balls it seems it would be less easy for a newcomer then years ago.

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

I like to see the animals that produced the hets... and you have to feel good about it... if I get a single warning flag I walk away.

If you want people to buy hets from you, be transparent. None of this "trust me dude" stuff. :)

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I recall a couple years ago seeing a table at the expo in Whites Plains NY and they had het albinos, het pieds, het this, het that.. This was enough to make me keep walking. They could have been perfectly legit, but if I have any doubts, I just keep on walking.

Rick

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Originally Posted by SiscoReptiles

I recall a couple years ago seeing a table at the expo in Whites Plains NY and they had het albinos, het pieds, het this, het that.. This was enough to make me keep walking. They could have been perfectly legit, but if I have any doubts, I just keep on walking.

Rick

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Ok what could that person have done to make you give them the time to earn your business?? And what what made you doubt??

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Joe when he shows up

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Joe typically spends his time prank calling me.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Ok what could that person have done to make you give them the time to earn your business?? And what what made you doubt??

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Ok....if I had a bunch of visual morphs that I'd gotten tons of baby hets from...and wanted to sell the hets at a show....here's what I'd do to earn your trust:

• Bring at least some of the adults for display on the table with their babies.
• Bring pictures of myself holding each of the adult breeders.
• Have available pics of the breeders on their eggs and the eggs hatching...all showing detailed records that I know exactly which baby came from which egg that came from which adults.
• Be patient and willing to talk with you and answer all your questions. As was so well put, I'd be "transparent" about my snakes and my business.

Would it work? I dunno...probably with some. Maybe not with everyone. But then again...no sales program is going to work with everyone anyhow.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Ok what could that person have done to make you give them the time to earn your business?? And what what made you doubt??

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I appologize. In my mind my post was much more clear than it turned out...

I somehow missed the whole sentance...

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they had het albinos, het pieds, het this, het that.. This was enough to make me keep walking.

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Should have read...

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they had het albinos, het pieds, het this, het that.. but not one single morph on their table, not even any photos of the morphs that produced these hets. This was enough to make me keep walking.

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Rick

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Originally Posted by JLC

Ok....if I had a bunch of visual morphs that I'd gotten tons of baby hets from...and wanted to sell the hets at a show....here's what I'd do to earn your trust:

• Bring at least some of the adults for display on the table with their babies.
• Bring pictures of myself holding each of the adult breeders.
• Have available pics of the breeders on their eggs and the eggs hatching...all showing detailed records that I know exactly which baby came from which egg that came from which adults.
• Be patient and willing to talk with you and answer all your questions. As was so well put, I'd be "transparent" about my snakes and my business.

Would it work? I dunno...probably with some. Maybe not with everyone. But then again...no sales program is going to work with everyone anyhow.

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Great ideas. I have no problem talking about me, my snakes or my business so thats a plus. The pics is a great idea as is the adult breeder thing. Thanks.

Again I am still learning and a year away from even thinking about doing a small show. But the more ideas I have to work with the better. :D

And again I want to get input from breeders who have done it and customers who are shopping. I can see what customers look for and what breeders offer that customers don't know their looking for in a breeder.

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Originally Posted by SiscoReptiles

I appologize. In my mind my post was much more clear than it turned out...

Rick

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Ok yea I can see that. Thanks !

Note that at the same Whites Plain expo I purchased 1.1 yellowbellys off another breeder who had adult yellow bellys and hatchling ivory siblings for sale too.


Rick

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

I like to see the animals that produced the hets... and you have to feel good about it... if I get a single warning flag I walk away.

If you want people to buy hets from you, be transparent. None of this "trust me dude" stuff. :)

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Hehehe, speaking of hets! :P

I purchased my het clown male from Justin. I did check him out before hand, asking Adam if he'd heard of him, and he said he knew of him, and that he felt he presented himself as knowledgeable on the forums he'd seen him on.

Since I live somewhat near to Justin, I was also able to visit him and see his collection. You also get "vibes" about people. After no "warning" raised by Adam, seeing Justin's collection in person, and seeing what type of person he was when I met him, I didn't get any "red flags" and had no hesitation in purchasing from him.

I love my Oliver!