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  • 07-14-2007, 12:19 AM
    Sputnik
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
    I'd believe that they think YOU are wrong, since the supplier probaly told them they were het for spider, and they'll believe the "bigger" guy(supplier wise). Just to give them benefit of a doubt.
    Wolfy

    I think they know they are not het and it's the ol, "someone else sold them to us as this so we are going sell to the public as that" excuse... passing the buck!
  • 07-14-2007, 12:36 AM
    jamesw
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    No they aren't. There is no super form of the spider.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    tee hee hee, yes they are :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
  • 07-14-2007, 12:38 AM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    I bought some Vision cages off a guy once and he was trying to tell me his BP's were het for pastel. He seemed pretty freaky so i didn't even say anything. I think he was trying to impress me. Some people are just ignorant, they probably believe they are right. Instead of researching and learning they assume knowledge, happens all the time. How often do newbies come on this site and give info they want to be true but have nothing to back it up. Some think just because they work in a pet store or because they own a snake they are automatic experts. The world is full of them. Life is a big lesson only many people skip class and purchase a cap and gown. I love to learn new info from those who know more than me and in return share it with those who know less.
  • 07-14-2007, 12:39 AM
    SiscoReptiles
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    Do you have the store manager's name and the store phone number? I have some double het reduced pattern high-gold morphs for sale at a nice wholesale price if they buy in 100 lots. I'd gladly give you a finders fee! :D

    Rick
  • 07-14-2007, 12:40 AM
    SiscoReptiles
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    Ohh.. and I almost forgot.. one has a rat bite scar that makes it "pied-like" but I'd let it go for a grand or two.


    Rick
  • 07-14-2007, 12:43 AM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamesw
    tee hee hee, yes they are :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    The theory some say is spider to spider makes an animal that will throw all or a higher % of spiders when bred to normals, but I don't think that is proven or accepted yet. I still say they are dominant until the big dogs prove otherwise. :colbert:
  • 07-14-2007, 12:49 PM
    Mendel's Balls
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    A lot of you mentioned calling the local BBB or police.......I like the calling the BBB" idea........still I wonder what are the chances of the BBB even listening when you start rattling off genetic terminology regarding snakes? Most people are pretty ignorant of the basic facts of genetics and most people are prejudice against reptiles, so would the BBB even listen?

    I thinking that the best you could expect is that the BBB would have a complaint on file about the pet store.....but I don't think they would do much about it other than put the file in their public records.
  • 07-14-2007, 01:00 PM
    CntrlF8
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    Other than the BBB, you could tell your local herp club. I'm sure they'd have resources and contacts to try to get the issue resolved.
  • 07-14-2007, 01:19 PM
    SPJ
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamesw
    tee hee hee, yes they are :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Until it is proven that a spider bred to a normal will consistently produce all spider babies clutch after clutch OR a super spider visual form is produced, then they are not co-dominant.
    As of now, they are a dominant morph only.
    Only if they meet the above criteria would they be considered co-dominant.


    You don't happen to work at Slither and Swim....................do you?:D
  • 07-14-2007, 02:18 PM
    Mendel's Balls
    Re: Baby Ball Pythons - Het For Spider - Only $89.99
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    Until it is proven that a spider bred to a normal will consistently produce all spider babies clutch after clutch OR a super spider visual form is produced, then they are not co-dominant.
    As of now, they are a dominant morph only.
    Only if they meet the above criteria would they be considered co-dominant.

    Only if a a visual super form is produced would they be considered co-dominant. An animal homozygous for the spider gene that looks like any other (het) spider would be classified as a dominant mutation. Complete dominance is by definition when the heterozygous genotype (Ss) looks the same as the homozygous dominant (SS) genotype.
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