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Birth Defect. What to do

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  • 06-25-2007, 04:32 PM
    WTHbbqSnake
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    Yeah I read in one of my ball python books that it was its "belly button". The things you learn, heh.
  • 06-25-2007, 05:46 PM
    Sevo
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    Hmmm, well Then I will wait and see what happens. Thanks for the help. I will keep you posted for sure!!!

    Number 4 is out.. another normal.. He looks great.
  • 06-25-2007, 07:26 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    Chris, before you do anything please contact Cue or Dave or Tracy from VPI. I am just running to review their Ball Python DVD now but I know I remember them discussing this exact thing and how it will often absorb inward and the belly close naturally. I'll go review the DVD now take notes but it might be best to try and get hold of them for direct advice.
  • 06-25-2007, 07:31 PM
    Thomas Jones
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    Sevo I hope i did not come off as being an ass. I did not mean it that way. I know you spent alot of time,energy and worrying to get those lil babies to hatch. I did not want you to put it down because of incorrect info you were recieving. I had to put down 3 snakes this year. All 3 were kinked up and deformed very badly. One had no head or eyes only a tube like piece sticking out of a knot in its neck. Bad thing was the last two I put down was twins. Your snake will be fine. Take Care.
  • 06-25-2007, 07:46 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    Okay I just reviewed the part of the DVD where I remembered seeing Tracy talking about and showing a hatchling with a much larger protrusion. It's from their DVD "All About Ball Pythons" - specifically the breeding/hatching part. Tracy explained that this is simply unabsorbed yolk and do not mess with it, cut it off or worry much about it. She recommended in the DVD to place the hatchling on damp papertowels and provide a water dish (according to them this is what they do with all hatchings prior to first shed, then move them to dry paper towels and a water dish). From what I just watched Tracy explaining this is no big deal and usually the yolk is absorbed within hours and the snake is just fine.

    I hope this helped. I still think contacting someone to confirm this though is a good idea, since I'm basically just repeating what I watching on a DVD (though I completely trust the information Dave and Tracy are imparting on it).
  • 06-25-2007, 07:55 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thomas Jones
    I did not want you to put it down because of incorrect info you were recieving.

    Since I am one that gave him help (and the other person said the same thing)...I would like to know which part of our recommendation was incorrect? The take him to the vet part or the call Adam part?

    We both said that euthanization was an option as the animal couldn't survive if the protrusion stayed...but to get an expert opinion.

    Sorry I don't see how either was incorrect.:confuzd:
  • 06-25-2007, 07:56 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    If you look at your other babies, you will see a little line in the same area on them where the umbilical cord (I actually don't know the exact term but I'm sure its in the Barker's book) was. Most often it is gone when the snake comes out of the egg but sometimes there is still some attached. Keep it on damp paper towel and it will come off on its own shortly. Nice baby!
  • 06-25-2007, 07:58 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    Sean, I think Thomas was just trying to make sure that snake wasn't put down out of any sense of panic that it has a birth defect rather than what is likely just some unabsorbed yolk. No harm, no foul. :) I think we all agree that Chris should speak directly with an experienced breeder to make sure about what is going on and the proper procedures to address it.
  • 06-25-2007, 08:01 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    From another thread here, check this pic out. Shows the same thing on another hatchling:

    http://www.vpi.com/brag/laser_ball
  • 06-25-2007, 08:08 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: Birth Defect. What to do
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Sean, I think Thomas was just trying to make sure that snake wasn't put down out of any sense of panic that it has a birth defect rather than what is likely just some unabsorbed yolk. No harm, no foul. :) I think we all agree that Chris should speak directly with an experienced breeder to make sure about what is going on and the proper procedures to address it.

    Yea probably so...sorry my defenses are up. I have been seeing a lot of the jump and condeme first before actually reading the previous posts responses. Also seems more and more "because my opinion differs you are wrong" posts. Ok going to go get a drink and chill.
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