Different names...same snake?

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Originally Posted by Shaun J

I think Hypo and Ghosts are the same thing. Correct me if I'm wrong

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Yes, hypos and ghosts are the same thing.

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Originally Posted by RedDevil

Cinnamons and blacks both make the "black" patternless, and lessers / butters still make platinums and solid white leucistics.

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Lessers and butters may make blue eyed leucys but neither make platinums.

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Originally Posted by MPenn

Lessers and butters may make blue eyed leucys but neither make platinums.

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I believe if you take the offspring of butters or lessers and breed them back to the parents than you can get platinums.

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Originally Posted by MPenn

Lessers and butters may make blue eyed leucys but neither make platinums.

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There are mmore, but had no time to dig further.

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I think cinny's and balck pastels are different morphs. The pewters look different. I do think the Lessers/Butters are the same thing. I have seen quite a few of both and I own a Lesser. I just don't see the "more yellow" that many people talk about with the butters. I certainly would not pay any more for a butter than I would for a lesser but that is just my slightly biased opinion.

This is my female that I am hoping will make me a white snake next season.
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Beautiful Lesser, how much does he weigh?

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Originally Posted by Shaun J

Beautiful Lesser, how much does he weigh?

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She is around 1200g now. She has slowed down on feeding but I think I should be able to get a couple hundred more grams on her before next season.

Good luck and remember to post pictures :)

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Originally Posted by pfan151

I think cinny's and balck pastels are different morphs. The pewters look different.

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Once again, you can't make a judgement on whether or not they are different genes just because they have different phenotypes. Enchi Pastels and Graziani Pastels make Bees that look different.

Realize that different alleles can have dramatic implications on the "look" of an animal, and the more diluted that allele becomes (by other genetic morphs) the more extreme the variation can become.

Cinnys and Blacks have different alleles, but they are not different morphs.

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Originally Posted by jhall1468

Once again, you can't make a judgement on whether or not they are different genes just because they have different phenotypes. Enchi Pastels and Graziani Pastels make Bees that look different.

Realize that different alleles can have dramatic implications on the "look" of an animal, and the more diluted that allele becomes (by other genetic morphs) the more extreme the variation can become.

Cinnys and Blacks have different alleles, but they are not different morphs.

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I don't think enchi's are pastels at all. I think they are a totally different morph. I also don't think you can state your theories as facts when there is absolutely no way to prove them.