Re: Is This Substrate Safe To Use?????????
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Originally Posted by lord jackel
the only thing to stay away from is Cedar
and pine :)
Re: Is This Substrate Safe To Use?????????
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Originally Posted by jamesw
and pine :)
There is no proof that pine is an issue. Lots of talk (that gets spread as truth) but nothing proven.;) Keepers have been using pine (the #1 bedding sold todate) for decades without any hard proof that it causes problems.
Re: Is This Substrate Safe To Use?????????
pine oil is baaad new bears, my friends dumerils boa died from it,i guess the oil gets into their digestive tract and causes major problems, the things you learn along the way
Re: Is This Substrate Safe To Use?????????
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Originally Posted by jeffjr464
pine oil is baaad new bears, my friends dumerils boa died from it,i guess the oil gets into their digestive tract and causes major problems, the things you learn along the way
Did he have a necropsy done to prove it was the pine oil and not just a piece of substrate or something else?
I am not trying to push anyone on pine (I don't use it) it just seems there is a lot of mis-information taken as fact floating around about pine. There are alot of the my (insert animal) died (or got sick) and because it was on pine it is the pines fault. While at the same time another animal didn't die on something else. One of those assumption + assumption = fact things.
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It's not misinformation, it IS fact that the oils in pine and cedar WILL cause respiratory tract damage.
If the pine shavings are kiln-dried, it removed a good portion of the oils, but they are still not the best thing to use when it comes to bedding(it STINKS when wet..).
Re: Is This Substrate Safe To Use?????????
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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention
It's not misinformation, it IS fact that the oils in pine and cedar WILL cause respiratory tract damage.
If the pine shavings are kiln-dried, it removed a good portion of the oils, but they are still not the best thing to use when it comes to bedding(it STINKS when wet..).
Really then things have changed recently...can you provide a link to this proof? I am curious to read it - I know that cedar has been proven but EVERYTHING I have read is inconclusive about pine as the phenols are not the same or at the same strength).
Thanks
