Pastels or Normals????

Here's a photo of my guy (courtesy of Vaughn [kavmon]). You can see even a fairly "browned out" pastel still has a yellow underbelly. But the eye color is the dead give away (notice the BRIGHT green color).

I can say with some certainty the photos you have in your gallary are normals. The eyes look dark, no blushing. One of them looks like a high yellow normal, but a normal none-the-less.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../jhall0601.jpg

well i get such cheap prices because its my close relative...for comparison

a clown would be 800-900
a fireball would be 400-600

so i dont pay store prices..

for me, normals would be like 15$

oh and these are all canadian prices.

thanks for the tip about the wood, ill try that
they have been breathing hard so maybe they are stressed out

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Originally Posted by Steve143

well i get such cheap prices because its my close relative...for comparison

a clown would be 800-900
a fireball would be 400-600

so i dont pay store prices..

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Wholesalers pay a great deal more than that. But price is a fairly subject thing. If you are paying "low prices" but they are all pretty normals, then your prices aren't all that low anyway.

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thanks for the tip about the wood, ill try that
they have been breathing hard so maybe they are stressed out

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Your ambient temps need to be ~80-82 degrees with a "warm side" of ~90 degrees, and humidity of around 50-60% (I stay on the high end). Breathing problems are usually attributed to incorrect atmosphere.

So the guy doesn't have a website?

Those are normal BP and not pastel or cinnamon, which means that no matter how good of a deal you think you might have had on some pastels is not a good deal after all, sorry :( . (You can see some pastel in my gallery for comparison)

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$30 canadian each

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sounds about right for a normal BP and in no way would you have found a Pastel for that price.

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theyre from the same clutch, and theyre still together for now..

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Now if you plan on keeping them you need to separate them ASAP, 1 Snake = 1 Enclosure regardless of them being from the same clutch or same age or same size.

BP are solitary and there is no benefit from housing them together however several issues have been documented including cannibalism

Also if those are baby they need a much smaller enclosure, 10 gallons each or 15 quarts plastic tubs. Big enclosures stress BP and you want to avoid that, so you will need an enclosure for each BP that will grow with them here is a basic list of what you will need http://www.geocities.com/gaballpythons/

Note: If that person told you those were Pastel and he was cutting you a great deal on them 1# He lied to you 2# He is in no way a reputable breeder (just my :2cent: )

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Originally Posted by Steve143

a clown would be 800-900
a fireball would be 400-600

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I'd be curious to see what his 900$ clown looks like if the Pastel look like those:8:

You got hosed.

Those are normals.

I would be seriously ticked off especially since it was a relative that ripped you off.

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Originally Posted by Steve143

well i get such cheap prices because its my close relative...for comparison

a clown would be 800-900
a fireball would be 400-600

so i dont pay store prices..

for me, normals would be like 15$

oh and these are all canadian prices.

thanks for the tip about the wood, ill try that
they have been breathing hard so maybe they are stressed out

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there might be confusion, those might be pastel or cinnamon siblings? (normal sibs)


i'll take every 800-900 clown he has, no joke!


vaughn

I'd be willing to bet that these were sold to you as pastel "siblings" - which are just normal siblings in the same clutch as pastels are hatched out of.

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Originally Posted by Steve143

well it kind of sucks that they have to be separated because i just set them up in a 50-60 gallon tank..but thanks:)

i payed $30 canadian each

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Umm i am not sure on the money value in Canada but i will say those are NOT pastels ;) .