Re: incurbation techniques
The no-substrate method is interesting, but I have always thought that suspending an egg in the air more or less would leave them more prone to temperature fluctuations as opposed to being half buried in a large thermal mass that would keep things more stable.
I've seen a lot of eggs hatching with that method - ball pythons, chondros, etc.. so it must not be that much of an issue.
Re: incurbation techniques
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Originally Posted by elevatethis
The no-substrate method is interesting, but I have always thought that suspending an egg in the air more or less would leave them more prone to temperature fluctuations as opposed to being half buried in a large thermal mass that would keep things more stable.
I've seen a lot of eggs hatching with that method - ball pythons, chondros, etc.. so it must not be that much of an issue.
It is actually just the opposite. The vermiculite mass is is too stable where the air above flucutates whenever you open the container...with the non-substrate method the air all around the egg is consistent. It also makes sure that the humidity provided to the egg is consistent at 100% on all sides....where as with the vermiculite water leaches from it to the air (hence neil adding 20 grams a week)
But since both methods have been used with great success I don't think anyone could say one is better than the other. I personally just felt there was more room for human (mine) error with using vermiculite.:)
Re: incurbation techniques
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Originally Posted by lord jackel
It is actually just the opposite. The vermiculite mass is is too stable where the air above flucutates whenever you open the container...with the non-substrate method the air all around the egg is consistent. It also makes sure that the humidity provided to the egg is consistent at 100% on all sides....where as with the vermiculite water leaches from it to the air (hence neil adding 20 grams a week)
Just for fun:
Box A has eggs sitting half-buried in vermiculate in an 88 degree box.
Box B has eggs sitting on egg crate with all sides exposed to the air.
Both boxes are opened, and what you are saying is that the eggs sitting half-buried in a solid thermal mass will lose heat faster than the eggs in box B that have all sides exposed to the now room-temperature air?
Re: incubation techniques
I use vermic in sealed egg boxes ... going on 11 years now ... have never had a problem ... it works well for me so I wouldn't dream of changing a thing. I never loose a droplet of water ... if I had to constantly add water to my egg boxes I'd never get out of here at the end of the day!!! :rofl:
I really don't understand the big deal ... like vermic is "bad" or something ... give me a break ... as long as the eggs hatch, who cares? Right? Do what works for you and be excited for other people that are sharing your passion doing it "their way".
Just my $0.02.
ROCK ON! :D
-adam
Re: incubation techniques
adam, you know i like these boxes/glass right? :D
there's some good karma hear!!:rockon:
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...9/DSCN0670.JPG
vaughn
Re: incurbation techniques
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Originally Posted by elevatethis
Just for fun:
Box A has eggs sitting half-buried in vermiculate in an 88 degree box.
Box B has eggs sitting on egg crate with all sides exposed to the air.
Both boxes are opened, and what you are saying is that the eggs sitting half-buried in a solid thermal mass will lose heat faster than the eggs in box B that have all sides exposed to the now room-temperature air?
No what I said was that the portion of the eggs of box B that is in vermiculite will have a slightly higher temp in the vermiculite vs. the open air. Vermiculite will hold the temp longer vs the air...so in essence you will have a temp difference when the box is open...I have no idea how much that is...and like I said since people have had success with both methods it pry doesn't really matter. :D
Re: incubation techniques
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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
I really don't understand the big deal ... like vermic is "bad" or something ... give me a break ... as long as the eggs hatch, who cares? Right? Do what works for you and be excited for other people that are sharing your passion doing it "their way".
-adam
Who is saying Vermic is bad?
I am with you...both ways will hatch eggs so do what works for you. The original poster was just asking about different ways to do it. :rockon:
Re: incubation techniques
hey i like to learn new things and i was just wandering about both methods or any more there may be. not which is better or worse just everyones likes and dislikes
