Taking ball to the vet..some help please?

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Originally Posted by SnakeEyes

can they check for IBD without having to do the brain surgery on it?

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anyone?

Sorry can't help ya there.


~mike

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Originally Posted by SnakeEyes

can they check for IBD without having to do the brain surgery on it?

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Actually, I believe IBD is tested through a liver biopsy. And the test is not conclusive. It can prove IBD is there, if it finds the inclusions....but it can't rule it out completely because the inclusions may be in a different part of the liver and not in the biopsied piece. This is why a necropsy is the only sure way to tell because they can examine the entire liver then.

I am speaking from a memory known for it's gaping holes, so don't shoot me if I've remembered that info incorrectly. But I believe it's right. :P

so if thats the case, then how would keeping a new snake QT for 90 days prove anything?

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Originally Posted by SnakeEyes

so if thats the case, then how would keeping a new snake QT for 90 days prove anything?

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If it's a ball python, IBD will have shown itself in outward symptoms by the time 90 days is up. If it's a boa, I'd go for a much longer QT (6-12 months) before ever allowing a boa anywhere near my pythons...as the disease can lay dormant in a boa for several months.

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Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

yea, when you get a puppy the first thing you do is go to the vet right?

~mike

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Absolutely...puppies will die otherwise (they must have shots)...snakes won't.
I know of NO breeder that takes there newly hatched snakes to the vet for a checkup.

As Judy points out IBD would have shown up within 90 days and you really cannot test for it till the snake is dead.

Again just my opinion on the necessity of taking all 10 to the vet just cause.

[QUOTE=lord jackel]Absolutely...puppies will die otherwise (they must have shots)...snakes won't.
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people dont only take their puppies to the vet for shots (which they can live without they just run a higher chance of getting a potentially lethal disease. example:strays ) People take them to a vet to be sure that the animal is of optimal health and catch any problems which may be less apparent to someone who doesn't know what to look for. If a snake does have a huge parasite load (which can come from feeder rodents or proximity to other infected individuals or from being wild caught) it could be just as lethal as any canine disease etc etc.

Everyone does things their own way, and if you don't think it is necessary to have them atleast looked over (they are wild caught) thats understandable, i just know that i personally want my animals to be as healthy as possible.I think the discrepancy comes when you have wild caugh individuals and if you can trust the seller, with morph they have been bred for health and aren't something you necessarily need to bring to a vet i agree, but these are wild caught individuals. just my :2cent: :sweeet:

~mike

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Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

Everyone does things their own way, and if you don't think it is necessary to have them atleast looked over (they are wild caught) thats understandable, i just know that i personally want my animals to be as healthy as possible.I think the discrepancy comes when you have wild caugh individuals and if you can trust the seller, with morph they have been bred for health and aren't something you necessarily need to bring to a vet i agree, but these are wild caught individuals. just my :2cent: :sweeet:

~mike

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I agree we all want our animals as healthy as possible and if someone needs the stamp of approval from a vet that is great for them...but I think it also is a matter of experience on the need to take them to the vet. Maybe Jon will pop in here and give his view (he brings in a bunch of WC every year and I doubt he takes all of them to the vet just for a check up).

Honestly though on these specific snakes they have been cared for over a year...not right out of Africa. This is why my very first question was if the buyer had some reason not to trust the breeder...sounds like we have the same basic opinion just looking at if from different sides :grouphug:

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

sounds like we have the same basic opinion just looking at if from different sides :grouphug:

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Agreed!:handshake haha.

~mike

Thank you for all the replys :D

Hows this for a idea..i should be getting them home saturday..i wait 2-3 weeks and see what ones eat and what ones dont..the ones that dont..i then take down the vet for a check up? or would this be a bad idea?

The reason i was thinking i should get them all down the vet is because i could then have my mind at rest knowing that they are all 100% fine..( hopefully )

They will all be going into the same rack..separate boxes..but i have no other snakes in this rack at all..since they have all came from the same place im guessing this would be ok? im really hoping so..nun of them will have physical contact with each other and my hands will be washed between each pick up..or clean out..

Also can any of the health problems mentiond be passed on to the other snakes?

LORDJACKEL - About trusting and not trusting the breeder..iv never got snakes from him before..so im alittle bit nervous about it..i dont think i have any real reason to be..just i just need to make sure these snakes im getting will turn into good breeder's..they weight from 1300g - 1900g..but before i try any type of breeding with them i want them 100% top condition..eating great..ect..

Again thanks for all your replys :D