Does this look like enough space for an adult leo?

if you want to pick him up just wait until he comes out. :)

to add to the discussion on sand, i'd like to add my own recent experience: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...d.php?p=546439.

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Originally Posted by Pwilliams58

ouch man

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Why? Need more convincing?

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=45900

Edit - Emily beat me to it, and great post on that thread, Em! And great post you too, David! Sometimes the truth has to be presented bluntly.

I guess what bothered me the most was Pwilliams apparent indifference....if you're a beginner or don't have the information, I understand completely and would never attempt to demean or be abrasive with someone who was genuinely in search of knowledge in their animals' best interests....I just got the impression that P-Will either didn't care or was too stubborn to admit they might be wrong.

Its OK bro....we all make mistakes, but believe me when I say your animals will thank you if you put down the wall and open your mind to the possibility of absorbing new info. We all learn new things every day!

ive got a leo as well and what ever site you look at besides the pet stores it says that sand can clog up their intestines. about the pet stores they are dumb

that wich angers you has conquered you :sabduel:

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Originally Posted by Pwilliams58

come oooon, its an adult, and is eating mealworms out of a dish, not crickets on the sand

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Just really keep your eye out for impaction. I lost a male a while back due to impaction and I would hate to have to say told you so later on.

i switched to astroturf a week or 2 ago

My humid hide is a rubbermaid index card holder. I just cut a hole in the front, sanded the sharp edges down. I put paper towel in the bottom and wet it down daily. It's black so the Leo likes it during day. The top opens up for easy cleaning. It cost 1.60 at Walmart.