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Haha, no chance of that. It would be nice, but I doubt it will happen. Everyone makes decisions based on thier own religions or spiritual beliefs. Well most of them anyway. It would be hard to find people to work for the government that had absolutely no religious background.
I think what it basically comes down to is why are people so offended whether you say one of the other. Like that lady with the music in the store. She was so offended that I wanted to listen to Jingle Bells.
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America was founded by Christians, so those who are of other religious upbringing should remember that and tolerate it.
First, let me make it perfectly clear...I am not trying to heat things up, merely to provide a different viewpoint, and maybe even some food for thought.
America was not founded by Christians alone. Many of the founders were actually deists, this is a historical fact. I honestly do get tired of this fallacy being perpetrated.
Another point: America was founded by several slave owners. This fact alone does not support slavery, so why should the founders religions support any one of those?
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. She was so offended that I wanted to listen to Jingle Bells.
Jeez, some people just need to choose their battles. :rolleyes:
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I do think, however, that people should tolerate all religions, no matter who was here first.
Why? Should religions that have a history of bloody intolerance be tolerated?
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America was not founded by Christians alone. Many of the founders were actually deists, this is a historical fact. I honestly do get tired of this fallacy being perpetrated.
True, true. My above statement was mainly aimed at the "We should remove 'Under God' from the Pledge Of Allegience," types. Sorry that I didn't clarify. ;)
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True, true. My above statement was mainly aimed at the "We should remove 'Under God' from the Pledge Of Allegience," types. Sorry that I didn't clarify. ;)
I am, most emphatically, one of "those types". :D
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Hehe, well I'm not gonna post anything else. Odds are I'll wind up saying something offensive. :D
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Why? Should religions that have a history of bloody intolerance be tolerated?
I dont think its religions that have a history of bloody intolerance. Religions are composed primarily of large masses of unthinking drones who follow orders. If you consider the religion to be intolerant, 99% of the time it can be traced back to the leader of the religion at that time. The spanish inquisition for example, do you think the people doing the torture are actually intolerant, or was it the overseer projecting his personal opinion onto the drones?
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I dont think its religions that have a history of bloody intolerance. Religions are composed primarily of large masses of unthinking drones who follow orders. If you consider the religion to be intolerant, 99% of the time it can be traced back to the leader of the religion at that time. The spanish inquisition for example, do you think the people doing the torture are actually intolerant, or was it the overseer projecting his personal opinion onto the drones?
If the religious leaders base their intolerance on the teachings of the religion, how can there be a distinction?
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If the religious leaders base their intolerance on the teachings of the religion, how can there be a distinction?
In the cases I am thinking of the religious leaders used their own personal biases under the guise of religion to get thousands of people to do their bidding. The crusades werent about conversion, they were about power, land and wealth. Can you come up with an example where a religion actually teaches intolerance? Most of them make it a specific point to accept others.