Axanthic bp pictures..

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Shannon, by incompatible I mean that if you breed a Joliff Axanthic to a VPI Axanthic, you will not hatch any Axanthics. Also with the Snakekeeper to Joliff or Snakekeeper to VPI. Hope that helps.

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Has anyone attempted to create a double-homozygous axanthic from two different lines? Do you think they would be even more silvery/black/white than the current, known lines?

Judy,
I know that some people have tried to breed Different lines of Axanthics together. This is how they proved them incompatible. However, I don't know if any of them have ever tried to breed the babies (double hets) together to see. In my mind if they did hatch a Double Homozygous animal, it would be hard to tell that is was double homozygous, without breeding that animal with each line seperately to prove it out. I hope that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Judy,
I know that some people have tried to breed Different lines of Axanthics together. This is how they proved them incompatible. However, I don't know if any of them have ever tried to breed the babies (double hets) together to see. In my mind if they did hatch a Double Homozygous animal, it would be hard to tell that is was double homozygous, without breeding that animal with each line seperately to prove it out. I hope that makes sense.

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Makes perfect sense. I hadn't thought of that aspect, but I can see it now....unless the DH produced a significant visual difference, you wouldn't really know (beyond a shadow of a doubt) if the axanthic you were looking at was Joliff, VPI, or both.

I imagine there are far more exciting things to do with axanthics than to spend much time and effort trying to prove what a DH would look like. Still...there's all those double-het babies out there..... If I had some...I'd be curious..... :P

http://www.baileyreptiles.com/pics/axanthicgroup.jpg

Tim, your Axanthic babies are just awesome! What combos are you working on with Axanthics this year?

Alice,
I did breed my Axanthic male to a Pinstripe female. It appears that she will go this year. Also, I have a pair of DH for true ghosts that have been breeding, so maybe I can get lucky and hatch the ever elusive True Ghost. I sould be working on many more Axanthic projects next year, as I will have more morph females up to size next year.

Exciting Tim! Best of luck with those projects... Those really are great looking!


ps... the top middle said he wants to come live with me... he told me! :oops:

So what makes them incompatable? Or I guess, why won't the lines mix? Isn't it just a recessive gene that has to be passed on from both parents? So if both parents had the gene, even if they were from different lines, how does the baby not color? Sorry if this is just kind of a 'duh' question, but I don't see how it works really....

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Alice,
I did breed my Axanthic male to a Pinstripe female. It appears that she will go this year. Also, I have a pair of DH for true ghosts that have been breeding, so maybe I can get lucky and hatch the ever elusive True Ghost. I sould be working on many more Axanthic projects next year, as I will have more morph females up to size next year.

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Best of luck with that Axanthic/pinstripe combo Tim!

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Originally Posted by Laooda

ps... the top middle said he wants to come live with me... he told me! :oops:

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HAHA! That is the only picture we took of that animal. That was Monica's hold back. He was the only male we kept this year (I wasn't going to hold back any males). Monica said she might oil wrestle you for him.

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Originally Posted by tweets_4611

Isn't it just a recessive gene that has to be passed on from both parents? So if both parents had the gene, even if they were from different lines, how does the baby not color?

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It may be that the different lines have totally different recessive mutations of totally different genes, the animals they create just happen to look similar. Think of crossing stripe with albino, your get double hets because the mutant genes to create albino and stripe are at two different genes/locations. It may be that Jolliff axanthic and Snake Keeper axanthic are just as different as albino and stripe, they just happen to produce similar types of animals to our eyes. There may be multiple genes not otherwise related to each other that can bring down the production line to produce yellow pigment.

I would like to know if anyone has ever actually crossed homozygous animals from any of the lines. The indirect evidence from crosses involving hets does seem to indicate there is some incompatibility but the homozygous to homozygous cross would be the ultimate test.