for all you spider owners out there...

is head wobble a problem with spiders?

Head wobble....:bolt:

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

is head wobble a problem with spiders?

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no seriously... is it?

Yes. Some show signs of minimal wobble while others have it so severe that they cannot even function normally just as some do not show any signs of it.


Avoid ones with a wobble. It is believed to be a neuroligical problem associated with the spider gene.

The bad part is a spider without a wobble can produce babies with the wobble and vice versa.

I looked for a long time but finally found a spider with no wobble that was produced by an adult spider that never showed the wobble.

Here is a link to a thread I started a while back on Fauna regarding the wobble on some spiders. Lots of good information regarding the topic was posted by many people.


http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...=spider+wobble

Here's the deal...lots of people are beginning to notice that at some point in the life of a spider, they exhibit some sign of a "motor control" issue. Keep in mind that normals can exhibit this trait too!

Where the issue comes into play is when you are talking about selling spiders and buyers having all the facts on the issue. There are people out there that, without knowing all the facts, will go on a message board crying and making waves about how so and so sold them a spider that wasn't a spinner but then it did exhibit some spinning behaviors. That's the reason why some sellers don't want to touch the issue.

Some spiders spin to a very high degree, to the point that no responsible breeder would even think about selling or breeding it. Others spin to such a lesser degree that their keeper probably never ever notices it. And just because a hatchling doesn't show signs of spinning, there's no way a seller can guarantee that it never will.

But here's some food for thought - look at how many spiders are making it into collections everywhere...look how many spider combos there are out there...they are obviously eating, growing, and breeding well....so it can only be concluded that spinning obviously isn't any more a health issue in spiders as it is in normals.

As a buyer, just don't be surprised when one day you observe some 'funky' behavior by your spider. ;)

Brad, I applaud your honesty and courage with this post! it is exactly what a Spider is all about. Spiders will do things that you will never see other ball pythons do. it makes me cringe when I hear a breeder tell someone that their Spiders dont exhibit these behaviors. the facts are that Spiders are strong feeders that grow well and breed. :)

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Here's the deal...lots of people are beginning to notice that at some point in the life of a spider, they exhibit some sign of a "motor control" issue. Keep in mind that normals can exhibit this trait too!

Where the issue comes into play is when you are talking about selling spiders and buyers having all the facts on the issue. There are people out there that, without knowing all the facts, will go on a message board crying and making waves about how so and so sold them a spider that wasn't a spinner but then it did exhibit some spinning behaviors. That's the reason why some sellers don't want to touch the issue.

Some spiders spin to a very high degree, to the point that no responsible breeder would even think about selling or breeding it. Others spin to such a lesser degree that their keeper probably never ever notices it. And just because a hatchling doesn't show signs of spinning, there's no way a seller can guarantee that it never will.

But here's some food for thought - look at how many spiders are making it into collections everywhere...look how many spider combos there are out there...they are obviously eating, growing, and breeding well....so it can only be concluded that spinning obviously isn't any more a health issue in spiders as it is in normals.

As a buyer, just don't be surprised when one day you observe some 'funky' behavior by your spider. ;)

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Here's a great write up that Adam recently did on Spiders:


The Real Spin on Spiders

Hope that helps! And I think my favorite all time spider was the one that Susan (daaang) got from Adam this year - I hope she posts a picture of it!

I like them all, but I like this one the best, because he is mine!!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...r/2-24-073.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...1-07belly2.jpg

I agree with syclone! Everyone has some killer spiders going on!!! But Ganoush is my lil hottie!https://ball-pythons.net/forums/imag...ies/th_sun.gif

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../snakeys/2.jpg


http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../snakeys/1.jpg

Ok...how many times have I posted this pic now? Hehe!https://ball-pythons.net/forums/imag...ies/tongue.gif
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...nakeys/bg5.jpg