Would this be an unfair trade?

Scott, I would disagree with you on the lop sided trade.


Heres my point; say you owned a male bumble bee that could produce $3500.00 hatchlings, and you had to trade a albino ball that was worth $1200.00? to get that breeder size female.

you do the breeding and end up with 3 bees that are worth $10,500.00
now wouldn't that $1200.00 investment in a big normal female be a great investment?
You just traded a $1200.00 albino for a female that gave you a clutch of over $10,500.00 thats a profit of $9,300.00
Tell me again how lop sided this trade is? :)

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Originally Posted by shavemycoinpurse

Definitely a lopsided deal favoring the owner of the normal female.


Not a trade I would consider.

There are good-sized, even proven females out there at reasonable prices.

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O.K. I don't want any fighting here guys.I was kinda thinking along ECLARK's point of view. But, everyone does have a different point of view, which is totally fine. So, let me come clean. ....The female in question in mine. I really really REALLY am desperate for a lil albino, and I thought that it might be an even trade, but maybe I was wrong....on either count, i'm not sure. However, I can assure you she IS a CB proven girl, because I have bred her MYSELF.

A fair trade is when both parties are happy with the deal. It all depends on what your future plans are. Personally I wouldn't do it, but only because I already have enough large normal breeder females for my purposes. If I didn't have enough females for my projects, but I had a spare hatchling albino, I might make the trade. It really depends more on what your goals are then in the perceived dollar value of the animal.

Mark

Crystal you got a lot of mixed opinions. I think Mark hit it on the head..as long as both parties are happy with the end results then there is no problem. :gj: good luck with the trade and keep us posted! and pics! pics! pics!

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Originally Posted by kavmon

how big is the girl? how many eggs does she lay? who's had her? and how long? these are a few questions i'd ask.

a nice 10-12 egg girl might be worth alot to the right person! maybe more than an albino or other morphs?
as long as both parties in the trade are happy and satisfied,
no one else's opinion really matters, right?


vaughn

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Vaughn hit it right on.

oh yeah Vaughn too :)

i agree with vaughn as well. it doesn't matter what anyone thinks... if it's fair to both of you... then it's fair. ;)

and look at it this way as well:

if i had a female... and she bred for me... i had 10 normal balls... sold them for $100 each... that's $1,000

then i looked at the albino... and in the three years it takes to get it to the same size as my proven breeder... i could make $3,000 from the normal breeding...

makes the deal fair in my eyes.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

A fair trade is when both parties are happy with the deal. It all depends on what your future plans are. Personally I wouldn't do it, but only because I already have enough large normal breeder females for my purposes. If I didn't have enough females for my projects, but I had a spare hatchling albino, I might make the trade. It really depends more on what your goals are then in the perceived dollar value of the animal.

Mark

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It can't be said any better than this. In my opinion, if both parties are willing, and happy with what they get, then the trade was fair. If I were in your shoes, I would say do it. Like Ed said, this guy might have a Pewter, and another proven female might fit into his plans better than a hatchling female Albino. We all know that you would like an Albino, so if you can part with your proven female and not feel any remorse later, then trade away. Just my two cents.

Personally, I'd keep the albino ... albinos ROCK and will always be in very strong demand ... The value of adult normal girls isn't what it used to be and these days they can easily be had for a lot less (or at least that's what I'm told by a big sexy breeder friend of mine in VA) .... but that's just me. :D

-adam

I think you've gotten some very good advice with varying opinions.


In my opinion, it really depends on what you want from the trade. Usually an albino is worth more than an adult normal female breeder. However, if you have several normals and you don't need that one for a project this year and you want the albino for future projects I'd say go for it.

Let us know what you decide.