Re: Cool side still isn't warm enough...
and a UTH wouldnt melt a plastic tub??
what do u use as a cover for the top of the tub?
Re: Cool side still isn't warm enough...
I really don't see what the problem is. It's a large enclosure. The cool side doesn't have to be exact. The snake will determine what temperature range it likes. If it likes to be a little cooler it will go to the cool side. Too often we try to make everything "perfect" well it's not always necessary. As long as the hot spot is at the right temperature there is nothing to worry about. The snakes know how to live and maintain the body temps they need. This is just my opinion. :crix:
Re: Cool side still isn't warm enough...
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Originally Posted by Swoof
I really don't see what the problem is. It's a large enclosure. The cool side doesn't have to be exact. The snake will determine what temperature range it likes. If it likes to be a little cooler it will go to the cool side. Too often we try to make everything "perfect" well it's not always necessary. As long as the hot spot is at the right temperature there is nothing to worry about. The snakes know how to live and maintain the body temps they need. This is just my opinion. :crix:
BP have special requirements and it is important to provide the proper husbandry for their overall health, unless of course you want do deal with the following
BP going off feed, BP having a RI, BP regurgitating, etc.
Re: Cool side still isn't warm enough...
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Originally Posted by rmune0750
and a UTH wouldnt melt a plastic tub??
what do u use as a cover for the top of the tub?
No because like with any heating device and enclosure you MUST have a thermostat to provide proper temp avoid overheating.
You can use the lid with big binder paper clip or get one of those latchable tub from rubbermaid
Re: Cool side still isn't warm enough...
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Originally Posted by Swoof
I really don't see what the problem is. It's a large enclosure. The cool side doesn't have to be exact. The snake will determine what temperature range it likes. If it likes to be a little cooler it will go to the cool side. Too often we try to make everything "perfect" well it's not always necessary. As long as the hot spot is at the right temperature there is nothing to worry about. The snakes know how to live and maintain the body temps they need. This is just my opinion. :crix:
This is not true on almost every level.
The cool side DOES have to be exact. A ball python that has found a secure place on the cool side will choose that security even if the temperature drops below the ideal range. A ball python experiencing temperatures in the low 70s for any extended period of time is at high risk for developing a URI.
You said that "as long as the hotspot is the right temperature...," so are you telling me that a ball python in a cage with a 92 degree hotspot with an ambient temperature of 60 is an acceptable range? Absolutely not.
The snake does know how to regulate and maintain their body temperature - but only in right circumstances. It has been found that ball pythons thermoregulate very well when provided with a thermal gradient from 82-84 / cool side to 92-94 / hot side.
Re: Cool side still isn't warm enough...
I've been raising and breeding Ball pythons for 5 years. I'm just going by my experiences. You should have secure hides in several area's in an enclosure that large. If your only getting an ambient temperature of 60 in a room that is 76 degrees you should have a low wattage heat light over the cool end of the tank. Most of the top of an enclosure that size should be covered with something to maintain humidity and heat anyways.
Re: Cool side still isn't warm enough...
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Originally Posted by Swoof
If your only getting an ambient temperature of 60 in a room that is 76 degrees you should have a low wattage heat light over the cool end of the tank.
How would it be possible to have an ambient temperature of 60 inside the cage in a room that is 76?
Did you mean that the other way around?
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Originally Posted by elevatethis
How would it be possible to have an ambient temperature of 60 inside the cage in a room that is 76?
Did you mean that the other way around?
You suggested the ambient temperature was 60. I wasn't sure if he said his room was 76 or not, just checking he said his room temp is 74 degrees.
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Originally Posted by Swoof
You suggested the ambient temperature was 60. I wasn't sure if he said his room was 76 or not, just checking he said his room temp is 74 degrees.
If you read my initial post, you'll notice I only used that number to create an example to refute the point you made about the cool side temperature not being important so long as an appropriate hot spot was provided.
What I am saying is that maintaining the cool side temperature at an appropriate level is, effectively, just as important as maintaining the warm side.
Re: Cool side still isn't warm enough...
I'm going by his information provided. If he's using a standard 50 gallon tank. That would be 4' long. Having 74 at the far end of this enclosure would be fine as long as he has plenty of hides and has a substrate temperature of 94. I'm sorry if you don't agree with me. As I previously stated this is just my opinion. I'm not telling him to listen to me in the least.
