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  • 01-03-2007, 12:31 AM
    ZEKESMOM
    Re: normal and spider... what will the babies be?
    Oh man the hetero, homo, identical, non identical ,allels, what ever just totally threw my for a loop. Will have to try reading through when I am not so tired LOL
  • 01-03-2007, 01:10 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: normal and spider... what will the babies be?
    Genetics is a complex and fascinating subject.


    It is one of the main reasons why I am in this business.. :love:
  • 01-03-2007, 01:13 AM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: normal and spider... what will the babies be?
    It all falls into place. Just keep researching. As long as you stay with basic stuff, you are okay without knowing alleles. It is easy when you are dealing with 100% hets and visuals but when you start getting into breeding 50% possible hets to 25% possible hets and double hets(1 snake heterozygous for 2 genes) that it gets confusing
  • 01-03-2007, 01:16 AM
    ZEKESMOM
    Re: normal and spider... what will the babies be?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tmlowe5704
    It all falls into place. Just keep researching. As long as you stay with basic stuff, you are okay without knowing alleles. It is easy when you are dealing with 100% hets and visuals but when you start getting into breeding 50% possible hets to 25% possible hets and double hets(1 snake heterozygous for 2 genes) that it gets confusing

    LOL Lost me again. I am going to spend the next couple of days trying to read up and pick Ladyohs brain!:D
  • 01-03-2007, 07:58 AM
    rabernet
    Re: normal and spider... what will the babies be?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    I love Spiders they are one of my favorite's. Spiders are the gateway to loads of cool morphs, Bee, Lemon blast, Albino spider and so on. Since they are co/dom they will get like pastels in that they will steadly go down in price but will level off. They are a great morph to start breeding with. Now if you get a female it'll be three years till she can breed by then spiders will be like pastels get you a male spider find a breeder size female and breed in one year to see a quicker return on your investment

    Man, sometimes I hate being so darn picky! :oops:

    Spiders haven't proven to be Co-dom yet, as far as I know - so they would be classified as dominant, not Co-dom (having a super form).
  • 01-03-2007, 10:34 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: normal and spider... what will the babies be?
    show off.. :D sorry if I confussed anyone. Robin is right they are Dom not Co-dom
  • 01-07-2007, 11:44 PM
    PipeDADDY
    Re: normal and spider... what will the babies be?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    50% spider 50% normal

    Is this true? Does it not depend on whether or not it is a homo or het spider? (i know they look the same) but if you mix

    het spider X normal you would get 50% het spider and 50% normal
    homo spider X normal you would get 100% het spider

    Isn't this right? (http://www.ballpython.ca/what_get/dominant.html)
  • 01-08-2007, 01:53 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: normal and spider... what will the babies be?
    Yes, if there is a homozygous spider it would produce 100% heterozygous spiders when bred to a normal for spider because the homozygous spider would only have the spider version of the gene to give so would give the spider gene to each offspring. A homozygous spider is assumed to look like the heterozygous ones we have seen so far but given the lack of public breeding data proving a homozygous spider 7 years into the cb project I'm suspicious that the combination may not be viable.

    If we do eventually prove a completely dominant mutation it will be even more important to start using the true meaning of "heterozygous" (having an unmatched pair of genes, not necessarily normal looking like with recessive mutations) as a way to distinguish between the two genotypes having the same mutant appearance but producing different breeding results.
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