Opinions...

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Originally Posted by kavmon

this doesn't have to get ugly, and i don't think it is a mkr thing., imo.


i disagree with this part of an explanation,


" No, this is custom-tailored for disadvantaged people that don't have it so easy. That don't have good paying jobs. That don't have well-to-do family to help them in times of need. That are on their own. There are a lot of folks that just barely make ends meet and I came up with this notion so as to help such people to have an opportunity to actually turn things around for themselves."


imo, if you can't afford food or the basics of life. keeping and caring for reptiles and other pets shouldn't be first on your list. our reptiles are a luxury to me and my family and also a responsibility as well. most luxuries in life have some form of cost. what about health care and vet costs??


vaughn

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Strong post!

I think it's big trouble telling "disadvantaged" people that breeding herps is their ticket to easy street.

And what about the poor snakes that are just a means to an end?

Allison and Vaughn, you both summed up my thoughts in your posts. If you are struggling to make ends meet, then put a savings account together and save up a few bucks a month..don't expect people to hand you expensive SNAKES!

I look at a morph that has taken years to produce...maybe an albino spider...now that is a ball python that I want..we all want it...

but I want to work for it. i don't want any of these gorgeous snakes handed to me. cutting the price 50% is a slap in the face...IMO..it basically confirms that i'm "low class", according to them...i don't need anyone to tell me

It basically would take all the fun out of it for me.

I will be damned if I dish out $1000 for a morph and Joe Blow can buy one for half that all because he decided he did not want to do anything with his life but wants to buy a snake that I want.

i don't think it's a fair policy

i've been to their site, they seem to specialize in burms/retics, beautiful animals

one more thing.....there's gonna be a lot of middle men making money off you

Joe Schmoe contacts David and says "i want snakes...lots of morphs..i'm a low income guy"

he pays $500 for a $1000 snake...3 days later, there's an ad from Joe Schmoe on kingsnake/fauna/reptileauctions/whatever for that very same snake for 8 or 900 bucks..

I agree with Vaughn. If you can't afford a snake at regular prices, then you cant afford to take care of it properly. Its just not a good idea.

The couple of things that worry me about this whole deal is as follows.I hope he realizes large constrictors are ILLEGAL in some states.Next i think he is setting himself up for some unneeded headaches from selling those snakes to someone who can not feed themselves let alone a 18ft+ snake.I am not knocking the guy for trying to share the "morphs" with others just think he is attempting to share the wrong snakes! If it were say corn snakes or such i could see it being ok but large constrictors NO WAY!

"I also feel that this opportunity enables the less privileged, whom often work MUCH harder to make a living than the upper classes, to make some lucrative investments that can make them 10 to 20-fold their investment in less than 3 years and thus they can then have a better, more rewarding life."


Look, I am VERY good at staying out of discussions like this, but this got to me. Who exactly gauges, or is qualified to label what hard work is, and who's doing it!?!?!? ........... Or not? >:/
That being said... I'd like to point out that if I were holding 5 morphs, 2 exceptional, 2 good, and one that should not be bred, and a "less privileged" person contacted me to purchase a snake for 1/2 price to put into a breding project... to get a leg up...I'm sure as HECK not going to send them one of the best... get me? How would that effect the market? NOT SAYING THAT IS HIS INTENTION... I do not know this person........ just a thought.

Another thing I find to be... off....

One their site of Available Animals they have stated:

"Here at High End Herps we do not create 50% "possible het" this, or 66% "probable het" that. No, we breed to produce fully visible morphs or exclusively 100% het animals. We don't goof around with "possible" anything. To us, "possible" is weak, uncertain and just plain risky and is therefore entirely lacking. When you purchase a het animal from us it is a 100% sure het. In fact, it is impossible to get a "possible het" anything from us because quite simply.... we don't produce them. And quite frankly we can't see why anyone else does. Why even bother? Would you spend good money on a "possible" Cadilac? No, neither would we. So why spend good money on a possible albino?"


Yet if you scroll down the list of snakes and the price list... you will see that they have a few 66% het animals....