fraudulant disability rant

One thing that REALLY kills me is someone who uses drugs or is a Alcoholic is given benafits with zero problems.Then someone like myself gets cancer and nerve damage to my legs(chemo sideaffect:( ) and because of my age at the time(34).I was treated like i commited murder :mad:.Now i did not go out to the street corner or the liquer store and buy my cancer cells like these losers that choose to be worthless.Yet i had to hire a lawyer just to get my benefits that I WORKED for! The lawyer got $4000+ just for filing a paper and setting in a room for 1 hour :mad:.We lost everything when i got sick and do you think we were given any state assistance NOPE :mad: .I nearly died when i opened the hospital bill(ICU 11 DAYS + code blue a couple times) plus several days in reg room both before surgery and after,are you ready for the bill amount? Try 110 thousand :eek: .I do not even want to reply about the misuse of food stamps or public aid checks in Illinois as i will get banned for sure :P .Now the part where everyone is saying to turn that lady in.Majority of the people turned in for welfare fraud never get investigated when they are ripping off the system.Now people who are like my freind who broke his neck in a swimming accident and is a quad he gets turned in for working every other month.Now he barely moves his arms and head but they still place a hold on his check until they "investagate" him :mad: .So basicly if you ever get hurt or sick and have to file for disability or something,prepare to be treated like crap unless of course you are ripping off the system then you will be treated like ROYALTY :mad: .

Joe
I can completly see what you are saying. We have a bunch of low life's up the street living in section 8 housing who do nothing but yell, cause trouble, do drugs and drink. I know not one of those people have a job. I also know they probably are on welfare and or get a nice "disability" check every month. Makes me sick!

When my mother got lung cancer in 2000, she could not work and that really hurt us hard. My father had to get a better job to pay minimal payment of each of the 20+ hospital and doctor bills we had. We couldn't get any state aid or anything to help us out on bills. I know when she died a few months later we were still in over our heads with bills and the companies gave us a run for our money when we proved that she had died. Took us a LONG time to get them to stop sending us bills. Three years later my father got lung cancer and could not work... He still got some money from his state job, but I had to work a full time job and a part time job to help him out with all of his bills now. He could not get any state aid or anything. We almost lost everything and even put our house up for sale. Yea it was bad.


Like Joe said when you aren't ripping off the system you get treated like dog poop and when you are ripping off the system you get treated like a God. System is messed up!

Allison, i am so sorry to hear what you and your family had to go thru :( .

don't blame the people, blame the system that let's them do it!!


now i'm not agreeing or saying their actions are right, but the people that run this country are responsible...


vaughn

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Originally Posted by kavmon

don't blame the people, blame the system that let's them do it!!


now i'm not agreeing or saying their actions are right, but the people that run this country are responsible...


vaughn

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Like they say it takes two to tango.I blame the people who do it and those who allow it equally.

The sad fact is we live in a society in the States that truly believes no one cares. Not for each other and certainly not that the government cares about it's citizens. If people believe they are not important and no one cares, they simply do not care. Not about you, or your tax dollar, or the law or what is right or moral...or even about themselves or personal pride. We have become a society of "me" people. What's best for me, what I can get out of you or the system, me...me...me. My needs, my toys, my stuff and who cares about you or the greater good.

That is unfortunately the end result of a society and it's government that encourages rampant consumerism, sues everybody that looks at you cross-eyed, starts wars that make no sense, refuses to provide basic health care to the majority of it's citizens, spends more time defending gun laws than putting coats on kids backs and sorry to say is so apathetic that we have a sitting President that nobody seems to actually like anymore.

We are all a part of the problem and we can all be part of the solution. If someone is breaking a law, report them and make someone listen to you. If you see someone in real need, help them or find someone who can help them. Encourage people to remember their pride again. Remember your own and it isn't about who has the most toys. Make someone, somewhere care because as far as I'm concerned the most dangerous thing in the world is apathy.

That's my little rant. :)

I don't see how they get away with it. My Aunt has severe back problems and has had multiple surgeries and will probably have even more. She was trying to get disability for over 4 years and had to go to 4 different doctors etc just to prove she had something wrong with her. In the meantime she almost lost her house. How do people with nothing wrong qualify?

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

I don't see how they get away with it. My Aunt has severe back problems and has had multiple surgeries and will probably have even more. She was trying to get disability for over 4 years and had to go to 4 different doctors etc just to prove she had something wrong with her. In the meantime she almost lost her house. How do people with nothing wrong qualify?

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Mostly I think Bill because they know how to use the system so well. They know what to say and who to say it to. Very sad that all those smarts are used that way isn't it.

I worked in a women's crisis shelter on and off for 10 years. Even with my own knowledge and the great training and support we got there, we got conned and inadvertently helped some women use us and the welfare/legal system to get what they wanted. It's very frustrating to be in a system, designed to help women and children and suspect you have a con artist working you but they know exactly what to say to trigger the response they want from you. Most know exactly how the system works, what their legal rights are and how to make sure they get what they want. You either can't prove they are frauds or are constrained by the legal responsibilities of your job covering client confidentiality and those types know exactly how to manipulate that.

Sometimes I don't see how they manage it either. I just finally got approved for a short term disability claim. I've been out of work for other a month now. I haven't found out yet if they are going to do gall bladder surgery, but they are definitely going to take out my tonsils next week.

I've been to the ER about 6 times in the last month and had quite a few tests.

I'm glad I have decent health insurance where I work.

I've certainly spent enough on medical bills for "pre-existing condition" in my lifetime already.

Btw, if you didn't know, you can deduct medical bills from your taxes if you do line item deductions and if it is over a certain percentage of your income.

Edit: Also, there is a form somewhere you can be removed from social security, but I can't remember if you are still deducted for it or not.

I am sorry if this offends anyone. I say this up-front because, I have been very lucky, and I don't want people to think that I am bragging.


At the age of 8, I was diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrom (IBS). I could not keep down milk products, had problems with wheat products, all sorts of food and digestive problems -- yet I was not allergic to any foods. I was given a perscription to a drug which was normally prescribed to hiperactive children and people with mental disorders (1967 - I can't remember the name). When my mother found out about the pill, she flushed them down the toilet and told to be tough-it-out and stop trowing-up, after all it was all in my head. I learned how to survive this and in a few years things got a little better.

THEN after 16 years, while in the Army, I had a major relapse and was in and out of the ER. They put me on lithium -- thinking that I was bi-polar -- sent me to a psychologist 2x per week. Tried every test known to God, and then some. Finally, convinced that I would not be able to stay in the Army, I did not re-enlist. When I left, I was given an honorable discharge with a less than 10% disability. This allows me to go to an Veterans Hospital if I can't afford to go to a regular one. --- I will never go to a VA hospital they are really bad.

UNFORTUNATELY, because of the stuff in my medical records, my Top Secret Clearence was revoked, and I was asked to leave my cushy Military Contractor position.

Why is this a problem, IBS is not normal for males. In fact it is normally a phenomena that occurs in teenage girls, and generally goes away after a few years. Now, there are treatments available for women, but not for men. (They use female hormones and have bad side affects on men.)

Often I wonder if I will ever have a normal bowel day -- it does happen once every 2-3 months. My regular doctor has given me a bunch of advice, try this try that, but nothing seems to help. BUT it has all been covered by my insurance. THAT IS WHAT I FIND TOTALLY AMAZING. I can only think, that because I got a Military Disability, the insurance companies cover it.

I am sorry for those who cannot get their insurance carriers to cover their illnesses, I just got lucky. I have always had IBS, but at least the Government recognizes it as a legitimate problem.