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Michigan and Ohio State first met on the football field in 1897, but the origins of the rivalry between Michigan and Ohio actually date back to the Ohio constitutional convention of 1802, where a hunter who happened to be present asserted that the southern end of Lake Michigan was actually further south than was indicated on the maps of the time. It was assumed that Ohio’s northern border would be set as described in the Ohio Constitution when Congress admitted Ohio to the Union as a state in 1803, but in 1805, when the territory of Michigan was established, Congress provided that its southern boundary should be that set forth in the Northwest Ordinance which stated that the northern boundaries of Indiana and Ohio were to be the southern tip of Lake Michigan. Ohio’s congressmen continued to agitate for acceptance of the altered northern boundary of their state, but despite their efforts, in 1812 Congress passed a resolution providing for the survey of the ordinance line drawn due east from the southerly extreme of Lake Michigan. The War of 1812 delayed such action until 1817, when former Ohio governor, Edward Tiffin, was the surveyor general of the United States. He employed William Harris to survey the boundary, but instructed him to run the line in accordance with the provision of the Ohio constitution. Governor Cass of Michigan immediately protested that Tiffin was not carrying out the instructions of Congress, and as a result a second survey was made in 1818 by John A. Fulton, this time in accordance with the provisions of the 1787 ordinance. This second, correct, survey line intersected Lake Erie east of the mouth of the Maumee, leaving the river’s outlet in Michigan.

The area between the Harris line on the north and the Fulton line to the south, commonly called the "Toledo strip," was about eight miles wide on the east, five miles wide on the west, and contained 468 square miles.

Beginning in 1835, both sides passed legislation meant to force the other side's submission. Ohio's governor Robert Lucas and Michigan's then 24-year-old governor Stevens T. Mason were both unwilling to cede jurisdiction of the Strip, so they raised militias and helped institute criminal penalties for citizens submitting to the other state's authority. Both militias were mobilized and sent to positions on opposite sides of the Maumee River near Toledo, but there was little interaction between the two sides which struggled to find each other in the wilderness. In April 1835 a Michigan sheriff’s posse of thirty men surprised a smaller group of Ohio surveyors working in Michigan’s Lenawee County, resulting in the capture of nine Ohioans who were imprisoned at Tecumseh, Michigan. They were charged with violating Michigan’s Pains and Penalties Act, a law which stated that only Michiganders could operate as public officials in the Toledo Strip.

Several Ohio surveyors escaped capture. They returned to Ohio and told Governor Robert Lucas that “an armed force of several hundred men” stretched across the border between Michigan and Ohio. The Toledo War had begun.

On July 15, 1835, Monroe County deputy sheriff Joseph Wood arrived in Toledo to arrest Major Benjamin Stickney of the Ohio militia, who had violated the Pains and Penalties Act. Major Stickney was drug behind his horse en route to the Michigan jail where his humiliation was defended by his son, Two Stickney, who stabbed Wood in the leg, in what would be the only casualty of the war. In retaliation, Michigan governor Stevens T. Mason ordered a posse of two hundred men to Toledo. When the Michiganders arrived, they discovered the Ohioans had fled to the safety of Ohio. The climax of the Toledo War occurred in early September 1835. On the first Monday in September the Ohioans planned to hold a session of court in the Toledo Strip, hoping that doing this would make the land part of Ohio. Governor Mason responded by leading a force of 1,000 armed Michiganders into Toledo. When Mason’s men arrived in Toledo they found no Ohio soldiers or government officials and returned home !

thinking they were victorious. They were unaware that the Ohioans had held their court session quietly and quickly and returned to Ohio before the Michiganders reached Toledo.

In spite of the fact that no one was killed, the rumors that circulated through Ohio depicted Michiganders as bloodthirsty villains. One explanation for the origin of the name "Wolverines" for Michiganders is that it was invented by the Ohioans as a suitable nickname, since the wolverine has the reputation of being a particularly vicious and ornery animal.

In December 1836, the Michigan territorial government surrendered the land under pressure from Congress and President Andrew Jackson and accepted a proposed resolution adopted in the U.S. Congress. Under the compromise, Michigan gave up its claim to the strip to Ohio in exchange for its statehood and approximately three-quarters of the Upper Peninsula, which was considered at the time as an uninhabitable region of perpetual snowfall. Ironically, the inhabitants of the Upper Peninsula were also bitter with the results as they had aspired to create their own territory called Huron. The “war” resulted in victory for Ohio, but what appeared to be defeat for Michigan was reconsidered after the natural resources in the Upper Peninsula were discovered. Aside from territorial gains, the war created a tension between Ohio and Michigan which would be perpetuated through the decades in the form of this football rivalry which is considered the best in all of sports.

Ironically Michigan’s official surrender to Ohio came on December 14, 1836, not in Michigan’s territorial capital of Detroit, but rather in a town located to the southwest - Ann Arbor



I know it's long, but I thought it was interesting to see where the rivalry came from.

Oh how interesting! I remember reading something about a dispute long ago over Toledo but that explains a lot (though I think the current crazed football rivalry is driven by lotsa booze! LOL)


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Originally Posted by frankykeno

Oh how interesting! I remember reading something about a dispute long ago over Toledo but that explains a lot (though I think the current crazed football rivalry is driven by lotsa booze! LOL)


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GO BUCKS!:rockon:

You are right defense wins games to bad michigan pass defense is one of the worst..they can't defend smiths arm and if they try he'll run on them...

GO BUCKEYES

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Originally Posted by McAdry

Well Michigan will win, Defense wins championship's Ohio's left for the Nfl. Two more days before the pretenders are put in there place it will be good to see you all again in Arizona Beating you all twice in one year will be so sweet.Score 35-10 UM.

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GO BLUE!:rockon:





Go blue!
Ohio state sucks.:D

Michigan rules.
I can't wait for Michigan to beat Buckeyes.
Columbus,Ohio will be full of saddness.:carrot:
Hello, upset.
It will be a good game.:sabduel:
Gosh It's hard to make one of these
Am ensthusiastic about OhioStatevMichigan
Never will say Go Buck
eyes.

Whoooo hoooooo National Championship here we come!!!!

GO BUCKS!!!!

NATIONAL CHAMPS!!
IS THERE ANY DOUBT?????

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Originally Posted by catawhat75

Whoooo hoooooo National Championship here we come!!!!

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My God it was an amazing game. Yes, GO BUCKS!