Suggestions on how to handle this

yea option 2 is sort of ridiculous

if i was the breeder, i would just let you keep the ball, because it’s my own mistake,and I wouldn’t make my customers wait a couple of months to receive their animals, nor would I make them pay a couple hundreds more.

Im not one to cheat anyone... But honestly it looks like someones getting cheated here and in my way of seeing it, it is "NOT" the breeder.

My suggestion is to get a second sex determination.

i'm with cue!

and i would politely let the breeder know that it was his error, not yours regarding the snake and you won't be paying extra to keep your snake.

but... in the future, he may want to be more careful regarding sexing his snakes. ;)

OK. This is what I would do. Tell him you are going to keep it, (as collateral) until you get your 07 male. It was his mistake. Tell him he's going to have to take you to court if he wants $800, because even though females sell for more, you have now put money into raising up this animal, and now she's worth even more, because she's bigger. Tell him you'll gladly send her back with a refund for what you paid for the original "male", but he also has to pay for what it has costed (is that a word?) you to feed her to get het to her present weight.Remind him also that you were just trying to be honest, and you are getting burned for it. Honestly, if that was me (the breeder) I would let you keep her if you really wanted, cause it was my fault.

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Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady

OK. This is what I would do. Tell him you are going to keep it, (as collateral) until you get your 07 male. It was his mistake. Tell him he's going to have to take you to court if he wants $800, because even though females sell for more, you have now put money into raising up this animal, and now she's worth even more, because she's bigger. Tell him you'll gladly send her back with a refund for what you paid for the original "male", but he also has to pay for what it has costed (is that a word?) you to feed her to get het to her present weight.Remind him also that you were just trying to be honest, and you are getting burned for it. Honestly, if that was me (the breeder) I would let you keep her if you really wanted, cause it was my fault.

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question: if you can't trust them to send you the snake you've now had order from a batch of eggs which haven't been laid yet... then why would you do any deal with them?

IF i were going to send it back... I'd do so after a full refund.

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Originally Posted by mr~python

tell him no way. he missexed it, its his problem. tell him you're keeping the snake and its his fault.

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Here is where we stand now after several emails and a somewhat heated phone call.

I am bringing the snake to get it resexed by someone else tomorrow. It probes and pops female. Turns out it was sexed by tail length originally. Never knew that was accurate and that was his big screw up. That's about as accurate as sexing it by the spurs.:mad:

Anyway, if it is confirmed as female by a third party, we will work out a cash payment. I will not send the snake back and I will not pay the extra $800. I am thinking $350 and he is thinking $600 so we are still pretty far apart in that regard.

i would be thinking $0. you didnt do ANYTHING wrong. you didnt cheat this guy, you didnt steal from this guy, nothin. yet he still wants you to pay him money for his mistake? doesnt sound right to me.

I am thinking your pretty darn nice.
It's like you go in a store and if they have mis-priced something and you buy it then go home and find out it cost more I don't think the store would ask that you come in and pay the difference.
He was the seller, it his responsiblity to make sure he is selling you the correct item. What if it was the other way around and you had paid more for a female and it turn out be a male? How helpful do you think he would be w/ refunding you the difference in cash ?

Points to ponder.