What is wrong with kids nowdays??

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Originally Posted by mmchoppers

Well, maybe they should concider putting God back in school and see how much the violence drops.

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Which one? I vote for Aido-Hwedo! But we're gonna need a lot of iron to feed it.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

See now whats the reason for this stuff happening:confused:

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In these particular cases they were very stupid ploys to get out of school for the day. One was a "Friday the 13th prank" yeah funny harhar

Getting back on the original topic...
Until people stop making excuses and start making everyone responsible for their actions there will be no improvement. When a kid brings a gun to school and threatens other kids or teachers who's fault is it?
Depending on the child's age, it is both the child's fault(not like they don't know it is wrong!) and the parent's fault(for not raising the child to know better). Instead people will blame everything else. Non-parents will blame everything else. It is not the school's fault, the local police, the president, the makers of video games, the movie industry or the local cheese factory's fault. It lies on both the agressor(child) and the legal guardians(parents).
Until people stop being selfish and lazy and unresponsible for their own actions, nothing will improve.
Look at our own hobby! Someone releases a 15 foot cobra... do they find and punish the owner? No, its the hobby's fault. It's the state's place to outlaw cobras.
wolfy

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Now when i was a kid if i ever talked to my mother the way some kids do now,i would not be able to write this today;) .She would have just plain knocked me out! Parents even think about correcting there children they are arrested and prosecuted for child abuse :mad: !

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Um...knocking a child out most definitely IS child abuse.

I've dealt with messes like this while in school and having worked in schools for years now. I have also been part of "lock down" procedures while on the fire dept. Shoot not a week after 9/11 we did a lock down on the high school...it was just plain sickening! It turned out to be a student AND adult involved in the so called false threat...something of that nature is in no way just a prank.

Who's to blame...that's tough to answer. I have zero experience raising children, but I know that if a child is going to get any sense of value and self worth they are going to get in the first few years and the most important people to get that from is family. On the flipside now days teens and children can threaten their parents if they try and discipline them and in many cases the parents ARE found guilty.

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Originally Posted by SarahMB

Um...knocking a child out most definitely IS child abuse.

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ah yes....but there was once a time when parents were abled to enforce disiplinary action on their own child. Now, a spanking to put a child it its place is considered "abusive" and parents are being imprisoned for "abuse"...kids think they run the world now because maw and paw can't givem some of that good ol' "put you in your place hand across the face because i'm the boss not you" disipline.

As for the "put god back in school" comment...(I know Judy, i'm trying not to make a "debate" out of it...just my POV is all)

The United States of America is made up of hundreds of different ethnicities. People from all over the world with different religions and different beliefs have come here to make the U.S. what it is. When a PUBLIC school is forced to "put god back in", you would then be forcing other people to practice a religion they do not normally follow.

I don't think you would be happy if Muslims made a big to-do about religion in public schools, and then every morning before class you're forced to bow down to Allah. We'll see how much crime goes down then.

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Originally Posted by SarahMB

Um...knocking a child out most definitely IS child abuse.

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I guess i should have worded this a little differantly then this.Since i was unable to use a three letter word to make my point about what my mother would have knocked me on if i spoke to her the way kids do now.Now i do not mean you have to beat your kid to make them mind,just a little of the "old school" disipline would go along way;) .

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Originally Posted by nathanledet

As for the "put god back in school" comment...(I know Judy, i'm trying not to make a "debate" out of it...just my POV is all)

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Just to clarify something here....that's all a "debate" is...is everyone sharing their POV. My point was to NOT share your POV on this topic. Not because I have anything against it...but because these sorts of things quickly get turned from "debate" into "all out war." :colbert:

I understand.

Gosh, seems everyone on here has made a valid good point.

As a mother of a 16yo in HS in a 'burb outside of our beloved Nations Capital I to deal w/ the seeming unending of violence in our schools. Here on a daily I have to worry about students who may come into the school armed and ready, a big worry here is the gangs w/ MS13 being a huge problem.
It can be very taxing on a good day.

I will say and have always said it begins and ends at home. Society has become so dependent on the Govt.,schools,law enforcement and the courts to handle , monitor and discipline our children instead of doing it yourself.
They want govt to monitor what is on TV, music, radio etc instead of parents being involved in what there children do and watch and listen to.
Parents need to be involved in their childrens lives.

As for not spanking your children for fear they will report you is true but crazy. As a very last resort when my son was young I would spank him, one day he said to me he was gonna called child services, so I handed him the phone and told him soon as he hung up go pack his clothes cause he was leaving w/ them when thay came. I never heard another peep.
Sometimes we as parents need to remind children who is in charge.

I feel for parents everywhere as these are troubling times indeed.