Re: One dead another dying HELP!!!
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Originally Posted by catawhat75
I sprayed them, and let them sit for half an hour like told by the guy who owns the store. He makes it himself and has sold it for as long as I can remember. I have used it in the past with no issues- it has been used in the store with no issues. But from what I am hearing, he watered it down quite a bit in the past and did not water this down as much. I cannot get ahold of my vet and Medvet is dog/cat only. I cannot quit crying, I don't want him to suffer. I feel so helpless right now.
I feel for your loss :( .Now this is not towards you ok? I do not think its legal for him to make and sale his home remedy crap.It sounds like to me your snakes were killed from to much pesticides in his crap:mad: .I would suggest to you not throwing the snake that is allready dead away.I would find a reptile vet as soon as possible,look for emergency vets open all night.Now after you find a reptile vet request a encropcy(is that spelled correct folks) to determine exactly what killed your snake.If your other snake dies have the same done for him.Once you have the proof of what killed your snake/snakes i would inform that pet store owner that he owes you the vet bills and the costs to replace your snake or snakes.If he tries to deny its his fault then contact your local authorities or sue him in small claims court.I realize that you are very upset right now,by him selling that crap he needs to be stopped.I am sorry if my posts upsets anyone.Stuff like this really gets me :mad: :mad: :mad: .Please let us know how things go ok?
Re: One dead another dying HELP!!!
"this thread should be a warning to anyone who gets this kind of advice from misinformed people"
What is scary is this mite spray is from Captive Born Reptiles. Terry is the "expert" on reptiles in our area and is big on the fight for reptile/owners rights pit tagging etc. I have been going to him for years, trusted him, worked for him etc...
He sells lots of this stuff at his store, he doesn't carry other mite spray. I for one will NEVER use anything like this again. I don't care who you know or what they say they know or how much of an expert they are- it is NOT WORTH YOUR PETS LIFE!
To recycling goddess and JLC, thank you for your kind thoughts, I appreciate them. To tmlowe5704- while I understand your view, right now it is not helpful. I feel horrible enough about this as it is. I have used this in the past and many others I know have as well with no ill effects. Had I known this could happen I would not have used it.
I am trying ER vets but no one works on reptiles. The only reptile vet I know of here in Columbus is Ann Crafton. OSU Vet might know about reptiles but they are closed.
On a postitve note I hope, I saw the second male drink a bit of water. He is a bit shaky but is not spinning.
Re: One dead another dying HELP!!!
Home brew tick and mite killers can be very usefull, but you absolutly have to know what you are doing. I make up a solution of 1 oz.nix added to 2/3 gallon of water. every bp that I take in on trade or buy to add to my collection goes through the process of being totally soaked in this for 15 minutes then a bath of clear water. no ticks or mites can survive this treatment. proper mite provention is very important, but It must be done properly. :)
Very sorry to hear about your loss, and it sounds like the other is beyond help.
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this is great news! i'm so happy to hear he's doing better...
of course you wouldn't have used it if you had known... we all know that. https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../4/7/heart.gif
i hope no one else looses their snakes to his brew.
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Ingrid, I feel awful for you. While it's never a good idea to use someone's "home brew", the fact that this person is the acknowledged herp expert in your community would have led you to follow his instructions, quite rightly assuming he knew his business. I'm sorry in this case that what he recommended became a deadly issue for one snake and quite possibly the other. Have you notified him in writing that his mite cure has caused the death and possible permanent damage to two snakes? I don't know if you have any ability to collect from him for the value of the snakes involved (likely not other than suing him and that would involve necropsy of the snake and so forth). I would still make sure you notified him in writing so that at least he might consider not selling this deadly brew of his to other unsuspecting owners. Have you considered a necropsy anyways on the snake that died just to make sure it was this mite stuff that killed it (highly likely it was but having a vet confirm same is a good idea for the rest of your collection).
Hugs to you dear, it must be a rotten time for you right now.
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I am so sorry the only thing I can sugets is that you suggest that they replace your losses ASAP. And you might sugest that they discontinue selling that vodoo brew.
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So sorry to hear about your loss. :(
If I am reading your first post correct you said you treated all your snakes w/ the pesticide? But only two seem affected and both where bought from the same breeder?
If that's the case then I would wonder why your others where not affected. If indeed it was a "bad brew" you would think all snakes would be suffering similar circumstances.
Very strange.
Hope the other one pulls thru.
Re: One dead another dying HELP!!!
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Originally Posted by jotay
So sorry to hear about your loss. :(
If I am reading your first post correct you said you treated all your snakes w/ the pesticide? But only two seem affected and both where bought from the same breeder?
If that's the case then I would wonder why your others where not affected. If indeed it was a "bad brew" you would think all snakes would be suffering similar circumstances.
Very strange.
Hope the other one pulls thru.
Whoa i did not catch that part about both snakes who either died or was sick came from the same breeder.Now that does throw another possibility in to this.I guess myself being very mad about what happened here i overlooked that part.Good catch Jotay
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Not sure if this will help you out.... however, I live in Mansfield, I go to a vet over in Galion (all the local pet shops use them for reptiles)... they do well with reptiles and have always treated my reptiles, fuzzies, and dogs great and with a reasonable cost attached... here is thier number:
419-462-8387
I realise it would be a heck of a drive from down there where you are, but, if you cant find another vet willing to see your snake/snakes now, I know my vet could and will.
Although, I would still wonder about those snakes since you treated all, and those two are the only ones with issues.
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Sorry for your loss. I would definately be complaining to the person who sold you that mix. For someone to mix pesticides and distribute them without the proper licenses is against the law. If the guy wanted to mix something up and kill his own snakes that is fine....but to distribute a mixed up soup of chemicals to people is wrong and he should be reported to the authorities.
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Originally Posted by jotay
If that's the case then I would wonder why your others where not affected. If indeed it was a "bad brew" you would think all snakes would be suffering similar circumstances.
I have my money on those two ball pythons consumed more of the 'mix' than the others. When soaking snakes, I have noticed that some will drink the water they are being soaked in....others will not. That could explain why only some were effected. ...after all being exposed to pesticides externally and drinking them are two completely different scenerios.
