Peta Essay Stuff.

Read the very bottom message and go up,lol. I used a friends myspace to talk to this PETA person...


WARNING

WILL LOWER YOUR IQ... :8:



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Good morning, Shaun!

Some animal rights activists have broken inanimate objects such as stereotaxic devices (the metal contraptions that hold an animal’s head in place with screws into the skull) and decapitators and have burned empty buildings in which animals were tortured and killed. Some raids have provided proof of horrific cruelty that would not have been discovered or believed otherwise. They have resulted in criminal charges against laboratories and experimenters for violations of state and federal animal protection laws and, in some cases, have shut down abusive labs for good.

While these activists and PETA have very different approaches, we will certainly not condemn them for carrying out illegal actions in which no living being is harmed. Since current regulations are almost non-existent, and those that do exist often go unenforced, these actions are sometimes the only way hideous cruelties have been exposed and ended.

We are against the breeding of any animals for profit - even reptiles. Not only does this reinforce the misconception that animals are commodities and pieces of property rather than sentient, feeling individuals, it adds to the overpopulation of these animals (yep, even reptiles!). You can adopt reptiles at animal shelters or through rescue groups, which we encourage folks to do rather than go through breeders...



Take care!

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From: shaun
Date: Oct 11, 2006 12:29 PM


What do you think of ALF?

HSUS?

Reptile (or any other animal for that matter) breeders who will eventually make a living off of snakes or reptiles?



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From: Deedra with PETA. org
Date: Oct 11, 2006 9:44 AM


I know which quote you're talking about, Shaun - people bring it up all the time not knowing that the person who said it was speaking for himself. His comments meant that he personally supports efforts by some people who break the law to fight injustice and his quote does not reflect PETA’s policy or activities. Again, please let me clarify that PETA is an activist organization working to educate the public about the horrors of animal cruelty through totally peaceful means; we do not engage in of activities in which anyone, human or other-than-human, is injured.

What PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk actually said was, “Even if animal experiments did result in a cure for AIDS, of which there is no chance, I’d be against it on moral grounds.” As AIDS activists know, real progress in understanding this deadly disease—including our knowledge of how it is transmitted and how it can be prevented—has come from human clinical and epidemiological studies. Recent clinical trials of drugs in HIV-positive human patients—not animals—have led researchers to believe that the eradication of HIV may one day be possible.

The goal of ending horrible diseases like AIDS is, of course, worthwhile, but this doesn’t mean that all possible methods of trying to attain that goal are justified. For example, there are medical problems that could be cured, or better understood, by testing on unwilling humans, but we don’t conduct such tests because we recognize that it would be morally wrong to do so.

Lastly, PETA is certainly not against companion animals but rather the breeding of these animals which contributes to overpopulation. We encourage people who have the responsibility, time and love to adopt animals from shelters rather than breeders or pet stores and to spay or neuter their animals to prevent more dogs and cats from being born.

Thanks!
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From: shaun
Date: Oct 10, 2006 12:41 PM



O ok ok let me get this straight... LEADERS of PETA have been quoted to say crazy stuff about blowing up stuff. If you want the link, justn ask and I will be happy to give it to you ;)

But why do you guys not want people to have pets? You want TOTAL animal liberation. No meat, no leather, no milk, no PETS (which I have more than i can count) , no CURES.(yes, without lab rats and mice, we wouldn't be able to come even close to a cure for anything.) Ingrid Newkirk evven said "If there was a cure for aids, I would be against it." Because of testing on rats.

Personally I'm biased because my mother's company had a lab sabotaged by Animal rights activist because they were testing on rats!
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From: Deedra with PETA. org
Date: Oct 10, 2006 9:23 AM


No worries, Shaun - everyone is entitled to be kind of childish sometimes :)

While some individuals, like those in other social movements of the past, take it upon themselves to break the law to fight injustice PETA does not commit these acts. As the largest animal rights organiztion in the world with more than 1.1 million members and supporters, we are often blamed for the acts of independent individuals.

PETA is not an animal shelter and we do not run an adoption facility. We offer a humane death to animals who would otherwise suffer a slow and painful end. The vast majority of animals we accept are only those who are in terrible conditions or unadoptable for some reason, such as aggression or sickness in old age. In other words, we accept the majority of these animals to provide them with a peaceful death through euthanasia, usually by request.

We believe that the spaying and neutering of animals, supported by appropriate local laws, is the single most effective tool in reducing the number of unwanted animals. For that reason, our humane education and outreach programs promote spaying and neutering. Our goal is to create a society where every dog and cat has a loving home. We have always advocated fixing the problems of overpopulation through practical methods, including encouraging people not to patronize pet shops or breeders. This information, however, rarely gets coverage in the media.

Thanks again for letting me share more information on what PETA is really about, Shaun!

Best,
Deedra

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From: shaun
Date: Oct 9, 2006 4:44 PM



PEACEFUL DEMENSTRATIONS?? By blowing up stuff?

You kill 85 % of the animals you bring in. (note: from all the different site's that are against PETA)


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From: Deedra with PETA. org
Date: Oct 9, 2006 4:34 PM


Hi Shaun,

PETA is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) advocacy organization that educates the public about the horrors of animal suffering through entirely nonviolent means; unlike our opponents, we do not commit acts of violence against anyone—human or nonhuman. PETA works to stop cruelty to animals through pamphlets, billboards, letters, ads, articles, peaceful demonstration, litigation, prosecution, humane education in schools, and colorful campaigns.

Children are inherently compassionate toward animals, but most of them know nothing about how animals suffer in the meat industry. We believe that those people who are angry with PETA for revealing the dangers and the cruelty inherent in eating meat would do better to direct their anger at the meat and dairy industries, which profit from selling foods that cause a multitude of health problems for children and adults alike.

Since the meat and dairy industries’ job is to peddle products, not to provide useful nutritional information, the materials that they distribute don’t tell impressionable kids about the health hazards inherent in high-fat meat- and dairy-based diets. Instead, they claim that meat and dairy products are essential parts of a healthy diet—a claim that is contrary to the lessons of today’s nutritional knowledge.

Thanks for listening, Shaun - have a great day.

Deedra

Before using Wikipedia as a reference I would double check with your teacher/professor. Many will not recognize it as a valid reference since anyone can add info, even Wikipedia itself recognizes no claim of validity for the information contained on the website.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ral_disclaimer

Wow, reading all that happy go lucky PETA nonsense did make me lose a little in the intelligent department, but it also made my case against them stronger. Especially where she claims that PETA doesn't support terrorist organizations such as ALF. Why then did PETA donate 25,000 to a guy from ALF that was sent to prison after arson bombing an animal testing facility. They also sent money to the guy's father!! Hypocrates all of them! Non profit organization my butt! I think some of the members even have pets?

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Before using Wikipedia as a reference I would double check with your teacher/professor. Many will not recognize it as a valid reference since anyone can add info, even Wikipedia itself recognizes no claim of validity for the information contained on the website.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ral_disclaimer

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's why i made a note that i had not verified all of my resourses yet- however, she's a big fan of wiki so it depends..


Shaun- most of that crap she fed you was so full of it i thought i'd drown. Yes, they're not a shelter BUT they tell people where their headquarters are based that they DO take in animals to ADOPT OUT. Of course they wont tell the people that they think the animals are 'too dependant on people and need to be euthanized'. Abused/dying animals sometimes are so unreachable they need to be euthanized- baby kittens and healthy pets do not. Sorry.
ugh i have more to say but dang it im at work..
then again i always have more to say n_n

anywhoo- saw the penn & teller i love the hypocrite who's like "yeah, i need insulin to live and yeah it came from animal testing but its good because i need to live to save the animals" FREAKING A!

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Wow, reading all that happy go lucky PETA nonsense did make me lose a little in the intelligent department, but it also made my case against them stronger. Especially where she claims that PETA doesn't support terrorist organizations such as ALF. Why then did PETA donate 25,000 to a guy from ALF that was sent to prison after arson bombing an animal testing facility. They also sent money to the guy's father!! Hypocrates all of them! Non profit organization my butt! I think some of the members even have pets?

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WHAT SHE SAID THAT- i have to read that better when i have the time OMFG i know she didnt especially when you can go onto alf's website and READ ABOUT IT.
it would be so easy for someone who didnt know and just wanted to 'do right' for animals to be conned into it.. ugh. *puke*

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Originally Posted by shhhli

's why i made a note that i had not verified all of my resourses yet- however, she's a big fan of wiki so it depends..


Shaun- most of that crap she fed you was so full of it i thought i'd drown. Yes, they're not a shelter BUT they tell people where their headquarters are based that they DO take in animals to ADOPT OUT. Of course they wont tell the people that they think the animals are 'too dependant on people and need to be euthanized'. Abused/dying animals sometimes are so unreachable they need to be euthanized- baby kittens and healthy pets do not. Sorry.
ugh i have more to say but dang it im at work..
then again i always have more to say n_n

anywhoo- saw the penn & teller i love the hypocrite who's like "yeah, i need insulin to live and yeah it came from animal testing but its good because i need to live to save the animals" FREAKING A!

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Just to clarify, I did not listen to her. I knew she was lying and was trying to get to me.

PETA's members can go **** ****. :D I hate them; half of what they say makes absolutely no sense. They're *******. Hypocrites, like most of you said.

However, I have to make a point about animal testing. There are alternate ways of testing, yes, for AIDS and stuff too. For example, there are human skin cultures that don't hurt people or animals. There's other stuff, too, that I can't remember. So animal testing is unneccesary. Unless I've forgotten something. If there are no other ways to test, then I say, 'I guess you have to', but most of the time there are alternatives. I am super-against animal testing, as you can probably tell.

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Originally Posted by chibi_tama_love

PETA's members can go **** ****. :D I hate them; half of what they say makes absolutely no sense. They're *******. Hypocrites, like most of you said.

However, I have to make a point about animal testing. There are alternate ways of testing, yes, for AIDS and stuff too. For example, there are human skin cultures that don't hurt people or animals. There's other stuff, too, that I can't remember. So animal testing is unneccesary. Unless I've forgotten something. If there are no other ways to test, then I say, 'I guess you have to', but most of the time there are alternatives. I am super-against animal testing, as you can probably tell.

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actually, no. i understand about human skin cultures and what not, but to say that nothing can be yielded from animal testing isnt true if one simply looks at what has been accomplished through animal testing already.
but i am completely uncapable of arguing this topic however, as i have nothing to support my claims (other than medicines that have come from animal testing which i will google some point in time) but im sure Mendell's_Ball's would have an opinion on that statement.
oh- and for aids: monkey's carry aids, and i think that it either really doesnt affect(effect) them(atleast not to the extent we are affected(effected). would it be completely fruitless to run tests on monkey's to figure out WHY and WHAT in their bodies provents the problems humans experience?


Shaun- i know you didnt! lol! it just makes me so mad! she just up and blantantly LIES to your face its so pathetic! ugh.

I always thought PETA stood for People Eating Tasty Animals

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Originally Posted by fergie

I always thought PETA stood for People Eating Tasty Animals

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Meat is murder, tasty tasty murder->mmmmm