mouse cage question

1/4" for mice and 1/2" for rats. The mice can eat just fine through the 1/4" too. If by chance you can find 3/8" hardware cloth, you can use thise for both mice and rats with no problems.

-Evan

any pics steve?

Oh good point Evan and Becky about the 1/2" and mice. I only breed rats at this point so the 1/2" is perfect for them.

they can eat lab blocks through 1/4 inch?

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Originally Posted by piranhaking

they can eat lab blocks through 1/4 inch?

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Yep! :D

-Evan

Well I have a wild mouse living in my kitchen that is getting in through a crack that is no more than 1/4" so I figure they can manage LOL. Rotten thing is about to meet Mr. Mouse Trap. I can raise tons of my own feeder rats but man oh man do I hate a mouse loose in my house (dirty creatures they are!).

I'm the same way. I dont mind feeder mice or rats, but a wild one bothers me bad. I think the main thing that gets to me is you never know what they might have... I still havent had the nerve to mess with any wild snakes either, well, i havent had a chance to since ive been working with snakes, but i dont know if i could or not. Im just now getting to the point that I dont mind handling some of the smaller ones that are known to be kinda tempermental.

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any pics steve?

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Here ya go.
The first pic has two versions. Still kind of a work-in-progress, trying to figure out the best design. The one that is hanging in the tub has a "stand" for access to water, but I haven't completely decided how to implement the water yet. The second pic is just the same feeder out of the tub. The third pic is one that I made for a 10 gal aquarium that has a hinged lid on it.

Steve

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../5/Feeder1.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../5/Feeder2.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../5/Feeder3.jpg

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Originally Posted by piranhaking

I'm the same way. I dont mind feeder mice or rats, but a wild one bothers me bad. I think the main thing that gets to me is you never know what they might have... I still havent had the nerve to mess with any wild snakes either, well, i havent had a chance to since ive been working with snakes, but i dont know if i could or not. Im just now getting to the point that I dont mind handling some of the smaller ones that are known to be kinda tempermental.

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I had a black rat snake last winter that I caught in my parents' workshop/greenhouse. Kind of a rescue/rehab. It was regurging anything it ate, and I treated it with Flagyl, and got it healthy. I never handled it much because I always had the intention of releasing it in the spring, which I did. I now have a wild caught bull snake that I caught at my ex-wife's house. I have him in a somewhat naturalistic vivarium (58 gal aquarium) in the living room. I've handled him a little, not much. Just so much trouble to get him out of that tank! Bull snakes are amazing animals! So very alert and aware of their surroundings. I was cleaning rat tubs in front of his tank the other day, and he was watching incredibly attentively.

Steve

thats about what i had in mind, although i was orginally thinking square, but that looks alot easier. I'll be working on a water idea to, so if i come up with anything ill let you know.