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Rock-hard Urates?

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  • 09-28-2006, 12:29 PM
    TekWarren
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    The color/consistencey sounds normal to me...the urates can dry out and harden just as any other poo can.
  • 09-28-2006, 12:33 PM
    slartibartfast
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TekWarren
    The color/consistencey sounds normal to me...the urates can dry out and harden just as any other poo can.

    Except that it was hard -before- it came out.
  • 09-28-2006, 12:42 PM
    wildlifewarrior
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    Possibly dehydration?? ive seen dehydrated animals that have very hard feces, assumming because the body continues to draw as much water as possible from the feces.


    ~mike
  • 09-28-2006, 12:44 PM
    TekWarren
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    Sorry I skimmed over that. If it was coming out hard already definately have the snake checked.

    For others: Does anyone know if there was a blockage/impaction that may have naturally moved on its own causing it to be "hard" on exit?

    Is the whiteish urate chalky to the touch? (sounds gross but after a while a little poo on your hands doesn't mean much). It just seems odd that the urate would be that hard and dry on exit.
  • 09-28-2006, 12:45 PM
    TekWarren
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior
    Possibly dehydration?? ive seen dehydrated animals that have very hard feces, assumming because the body continues to draw as much water as possible from the feces.


    ~mike


    I was thinking this also but it would seem like the animal would have to be pretty dehydrated (physically looking unhealthy) for a urate like that? I guess I've never see a urate come out purely solid.
  • 09-28-2006, 12:46 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    Is urates a by product of the kidneys or bowels.
  • 09-28-2006, 12:47 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    It could be a organ not working properly like getting kidney stones or galstones, Couldn't it
  • 09-28-2006, 01:04 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    It sounds weird enough that a trip to a good herp vet would be what I would do. =)
  • 09-28-2006, 01:05 PM
    slartibartfast
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TekWarren
    I was thinking this also but it would seem like the animal would have to be pretty dehydrated (physically looking unhealthy) for a urate like that? I guess I've never see a urate come out purely solid.

    It's not stool...it's white (or off-white, anyway) like urates. Slightly chalky to the touch.

    I'm a vet tech....got a pretty strong stomach. :-) I've picked live maggots out of open wounds and then sat down to fried rice. Getting a little poo/pee on my hands is no biggie.

    He's not dehydrated...he's fat, sleek, shiny. Just as gorgeous as you could ask for. Sheds out perfectly. Humidity and temps are right.
  • 09-28-2006, 01:16 PM
    Evan Jamison
    Re: Rock-hard Urates?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    Is urates a by product of the kidneys or bowels.

    Kidneys. Uric acid is a by-product of protien metabolism, and its production is a very efficient way of getting rid of nitrogenous waste without using a lot of water in the process. Mammals excrete urea, which is much more soluble in water. We use a lot more water in getting rid of waste than birds and reptiles do. :pee:

    -Evan
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