66% Explanation Needed Please!

I just finished reading it.... it makes complete sense to attempt it. But a hefty project it is... purchasing 4-5 snakes for one project attemping to hatch at least 1 visible morph. I will stick to my 100% Hets... and at minimum would purchase 2-3 females out of a clutch of 66% to prove one-two of them out!

I bought a normal who had both pastel parents. I thought if you bred two FULL PASTELS that all of the clutch would have some pastel genes.

So shouldn't my normal be a het pastel? At least 50%?

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So shouldn't my normal be a het pastel? At least 50%?

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No such thing as het pastel (or spider) From what I understand if you breed a normal to either a pastel or spider you can get pastels/spiders and normals.

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Originally Posted by sidhe

No such thing as het pastel (or spider) From what I understand if you breed a normal to either a pastel or spider you can get pastels/spiders and normals.

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Correct Het is a term used to describe a recessive gene. Spider, Pastel are Dominate or Codominate meaning it either shows up or it wasent present. if I am not mistaken

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Originally Posted by AkivaSmith

I bought a normal who had both pastel parents. I thought if you bred two FULL PASTELS that all of the clutch would have some pastel genes.

So shouldn't my normal be a het pastel? At least 50%?

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Breed two pastels together and you get four eggs. Heres the fun part you get three pastels and Drum roll please one super pastel. Meaning you have a 1 in four chance to produce a super. Now again they may all be just pastels.

If your going with poss. hets, females are the only thing worth having. When breeding a homo or het male with a group of poss. het females, you know the gene is in the mix somewhere. Here's the breakdown of the percent chance that each egg has to hatch out as a visual.

50% x 50%, each egg has a 6.25% chance of hatching a visual (same odds as producing a double recessive trait with double hets, 1/16)
50% x 66% = 8.3%chance
66% x 66% = 11%
het x 50% = 12.5%
het x 66% = 16.7%
het x het = 25%
homo x 50% = 25%
homo x het = 50%

There have been many-a-happy dances done when poss. het girls prove out :carrot:. Poss het males are as good as normals, unless you're dealing with high end stuff (i.e. Lav. albino) where even het males still cost a bunch and you're on a budget. Trying to prove out poss het males without poss het females (or het/homo femalesfor that matter) will be years of work with a possibilty to not producing any visuals ever. Having a 100% het male ensures that somewhere down the road, you will produce a visual.

Alright, that's enough outta me.

-Evan

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Originally Posted by AkivaSmith

I bought a normal who had both pastel parents. I thought if you bred two FULL PASTELS that all of the clutch would have some pastel genes.

So shouldn't my normal be a het pastel? At least 50%?

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I don't believe pastel is a recessive trait. It is very possible to breed 2 pastels and produce normals. There is no such thing as a Het Pastel.

EDIT: 4 post! before mine was submitted.. ouch lol

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Originally Posted by Kilo

Even doing that though... wouldn't you want to purchase the entire clutch of 66%'s knowing that at least 2-3 have the gene!?!

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There is no guarantee any of them are hets. 66% refers to the chance that each egg has of being a carrier, not necessarily of how many eggs in a clutch will be carriers.

-Evan

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Originally Posted by Evan Jamison

If your going with poss. hets, females are the only thing worth having. When breeding a homo or het male with a group of poss. het females, you know the gene is in the mix somewhere. Here's the breakdown of the percent chance that each egg has to hatch out as a visual.

50% x 50%, each egg has a 6.25% chance of hatching a visual (same odds as producing a double recessive trait with double hets, 1/16)
50% x 66% = 8.3%chance
66% x 66% = 11%
het x 50% = 12.5%
het x 66% = 16.7%
het x het = 25%
homo x 50% = 25%
homo x het = 50%

There have been many-a-happy dances done when poss. het girls prove out :carrot:. Poss het males are as good as normals, unless you're dealing with high end stuff (i.e. Lav. albino) where even het males still cost a bunch and you're on a budget. Trying to prove out poss het males without poss het females (or het/homo femalesfor that matter) will be years of work with a possibilty to not producing any visuals ever. Having a 100% het male ensures that somewhere down the road, you will produce a visual.

Alright, that's enough outta me.

-Evan

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Thanks for dropping the knowledge bomb Evan... you are always a big help!

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Breed two pastels together and you get four eggs. Heres the fun part you get three pastels and Drum roll please one super pastel. Meaning you have a 1 in four chance to produce a super. Now again they may all be just pastels.

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pastel x pastel = 25% normal, 50% pastel, 25% super :D

-Evan