P. baroni, rear-fanged beauties!!! (pics)

They are gorgeous looking snakes! I love the upturned scale as well, just like on the hognoses. I don't know much about these snakes at all, are their bites like hognose bites that can cause allergic reactionTO the venom rather than FROM the venom? Just curious as I know nothing about them, but hoggies are also called rear-fanged venomous (mine doesn't bite and is a sweetie though).

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Originally Posted by Evan Jamison

(blasphemy, right Adam?)

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LOL ... Just saw this thread Evan (been super busy lately) and I have to say that I am SHOCKED ... well not really ;) ... I'm very happy for you that you went for it! Congrats! They're really awesome (for not being balls and all :P )!!!!

:D:D:D

-adam

A bite from these guys could get pretty bad, pretty fast if they chewed for a bit. So could a bite from a hognose, but Philodryas venom is much more potent. The toxicology studies done on the venom of Philodryas point to a relatively high concentration of three-finger toxins (3FTx), as do most colubrids. For more specifics on 3FTx, and the studies that have made the herp world rethink "harmless colubrids", go here. Some colubrids even have higher concentrations of toxins drop-for-drop than elapids and vipers, they just don't have an advanced venom delivery system, nor do they produce large quantities of venom, so are not considered as dangerous (except Dispholidus typus, Thelotonis sp., and a few others that is).

-Evan

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

LOL ... Just saw this thread Evan (been super busy lately) and I have to say that I am SHOCKED ... well not really ;) ... I'm very happy for you that you went for it! Congrats! They're really awesome (for not being balls and all :P )!!!!

:D:D:D

-adam

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Thanks Adam! Don't worry, our next addition will definitely be less evolved, and have vestigial hindlimbs :D :nerd:.

-Evan

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Originally Posted by Evan Jamison

A bite from these guys could get pretty bad, pretty fast if they chewed for a bit. So could a bite from a hognose, but Philodryas venom is much more potent. The toxicology studies done on the venom of Philodryas point to a relatively high concentration of three-finger toxins (3FTx), as do most colubrids. For more specifics on 3FTx, and the studies that have made the herp world rethink "harmless colubrids", go here. Some colubrids even have higher concentrations of toxins drop-for-drop than elapids and vipers, they just don't have an advanced venom delivery system, nor do they produce large quantities of venom, so are not considered as dangerous (except Dispholidus typus, Thelotonis sp., and a few others that is).

-Evan

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Thanks, Evan - and thanks for the link which I've just read. It's a very interesting article.

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Originally Posted by Evan Jamison

Thanks Adam! Don't worry, our next addition will definitely be less evolved, and have vestigial hindlimbs :D :nerd:.

-Evan

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YAY for less evolved! ... Now that's what I'm talkin about! ;) :sweeet:

-adam