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  • 09-02-2006, 05:32 AM
    snakey68
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    Soooo jealous dammit :) absoloutely stupendously lovely :tongue2:...Celia

    may I have one ? :D
  • 09-02-2006, 12:28 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    I think I like them better than the full stripes; much more interesting looking!
  • 09-02-2006, 12:35 PM
    Emilio
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    Those are some cool sexy's Celia!!! No doubt they are very nice.
  • 09-02-2006, 12:52 PM
    JLC
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    Celia, I think they're wonderful! What beautiful babies! I certainly wouldn't be unhappy to have a "cryptic" or two in my collection! ;)
  • 09-02-2006, 01:03 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    .....it would be neat if you could fade out the striping all together......would be very similar to a patternless ball :D

    Great pics as usual! :handshake
  • 09-02-2006, 01:35 PM
    RedDevil
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    .....it would be neat if you could fade out the striping all together......would be very similar to a patternless ball :D

    Great pics as usual! :handshake

    I always thought the patternless looked an aweful lot like a stripe. You can clearly see the stripe down their backs (because it is a brighter color), and sometimes even some black along the side of the stripe (check out the tail end of this one). They just look like genetic stripes where the stripe is connected to the pattern along most of the body.

    http://www.vpi.com/4VPIInventory/VPI...atlessF640.jpg
  • 09-02-2006, 03:11 PM
    Cubby23
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    Wow that stripe (or the lack of) is AWESOME. Sometimes the flukes are amazing.
  • 09-02-2006, 03:36 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RedDevil
    I always thought the patternless looked an aweful lot like a stripe. You can clearly see the stripe down their backs (because it is a brighter color), and sometimes even some black along the side of the stripe (check out the tail end of this one). They just look like genetic stripes where the stripe is connected to the pattern along most of the body.

    http://www.vpi.com/4VPIInventory/VPI...atlessF640.jpg

    I think the two traits look very very similar to one another. I wonder if a genetic stipe x patternless would yeild a morph offspring or cause something funny. Oh well... I guess we will see in the future when more patternless ball pythons hit the scene.....there are still very few of those out there ;)
  • 09-02-2006, 04:14 PM
    4theSNAKElady
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    Awesome!!! I like it :gj: are you keepin em' all, or selling?
  • 09-03-2006, 02:29 AM
    wetceal
    Re: It's Fun OUTSIDE the Lines Too...
    Thanks for the comments and compliments everyone! The rest of the clutch actually came out today so I took the chance to take some photos of them all while they were still bright and shiny!

    This was a breeding between our male Genetic Stripe and a possible Het. female that ended up proving out for us. There were 8 eggs and 7 out of 8 turned out to be Genetic (cryptic :P ) Stripes! We couldn't have hoped for better odds! The sex ratio on the Stripes is 3.4 which isn't bad either!

    There is a huge amount of diversity in this clutch. 5 out of the 7 Stripes have that "cryptic" look to them. There are two individuals that have full gold stripes with no black criss-crossing over it but with a few slight black stripe breaks. These two look totally different from the rest of the clutch because of their "more perfect" stripe.

    I'm not sure how the genetics on the Patternless Ball Pythons work but they do seem like a incredibly diminished patterned Genetic Stripe. Hopefully more will be revealed about those guys in the near future.

    Liquid Snake 06 - I use a Nikon D200 digital SLR camera with a 60mm macro lens and the Nikon SB-800 speedlight with a diffuser. It's the best set-up I've used to date and I've been really happy with the results I've been getting with this particular camera (and Nikon cameras in general!).

    Cue, Jason, and Allison - An Axanthic Genetic Stripe would be pretty cool because the black on Genetic Stripes is SO dark. So, I would think an Axanthic version would have really high contrast. How about a Pewter Genetic Stripe...? (stay tuned............ :D )

    4theSnakeLady - I would really like to keep a pair of the most "cryptic" patterned babies to raise up and breed to each other in an attempt to increase the broken, floating patterns. I think Sean probably wants to keep the unbroken golden striped male to raise up as another male breeder. Otherwise, I guess all the others are for sale LOL.

    Anyways, here are the new photos...

    The Group...
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/9-2-06cryptic1.jpg

    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/9-2-06cryptic2.jpg

    An unbroken (gold) Stripe with a somewhat diminished pattern as well...
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/9-2-06cryptic3.jpg

    The two unbroken (gold) Stripers
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/9-2-06cryptic4.jpg

    And the unbroken (gold) Stripe with one of my favorite cryptics
    http://exoticsbynature.com/ksf/9-2-06cryptic5.jpg

    Thanks for looking,
    Celia
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