How do you know when something is too small.

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Here is a picture of the set-up. I have a hotspot that is roughly 8"x10" that is regulated with a thermostat to 91F in the back right corner under the rock-like hidey. The over all temp in the environment is 82-84 because it is summer. The cool side (coconut hidey) is about 81-84F now but will be cooler as the temp in the appt drops. The Warm side has a large UTH which I can crank up if the appt temp drops below 70 -- It is also on a thermostat.

The humidity without any water in the bowl is 52% I have had it up to 87% by adding water to the bowl and spraying the cloth plants. With some wet moss I am sure that I can get it past 90% easily.

The reason for getting a Ball Python is that I like the way they look. I could have gotten a 10gal to start but I thought that this would give me more practice and would last longer.

I certainly would never buy an animal that I had no room to house. WORST CASE I would move the couch out away from the wall and put the aquarium behind it.

I am taking the time now to figure out the best place (low traffic, no direct light, etc.) to put an enclosure that is the right size (the 30 breeder is really my preference and would provide not only enough size but a front glass so that we humans can look in on our valuable addition to the family). By planning now, I will have the time to move things around so that the environment for the humans in our appt (wife and two kids) meshes well with the needs of the snake.

So to that end, it looks like that I have about 18 months give or take 6 to effect a better living arrangement. Does that sound right?

You sound like you have everything in order.

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Originally Posted by AkivaSmith

So to that end, it looks like that I have about 18 months give or take 6 to effect a better living arrangement. Does that sound right?

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I give ya 6-12 months....depending on your snake ;)

Cool. So in February I'll start setting up something bigger. What would you suggest to put in this enclosure? That would be comfortable for its entire life?

We have our bp in a 20L. I guesstimate she's about 10-11 months old. She is 36" and just over 600g.

While the 20L (30" x 12") should be big enough for her until she is approx. 42", we feel she's ready for a bigger cage - she also needs bigger hides and the next size up of the hides we like wouldn't fit in the 20L.

That's why I figured that the Critter Cage 30 breeder would be the best for me. I just gotta find the right spot for it! With 36x18 I should be able to fit any of the big hideys.

Why not a tub? Those tanks can get VERY expensive compared to a 6 dollar tub. Tubs are also better because they keep heat and humidity in.

And if you want to display your snake, a tub ain't gonna do it...

Sorry, I get tired of hearing how wonderful tubs are...there are those of us actually like glass tanks. =)

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Originally Posted by cassandra

And if you want to display your snake, a tub ain't gonna do it...

Sorry, I get tired of hearing how wonderful tubs are...there are those of us actually like glass tanks. =)

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Go Glass Tanks ;) !!!

I plan on only having one BP. I feel that Fluffy will be one of the family, and as such deserves a place on display -- even if s/he wants to hide all day.



Go Glass Cages!!!!

I'm also not a big fan of the tubs, my Ball is in an Animal Plastics cage (best purchase I've ever made for him) and my Corn and King are in glass tanks. I love being able to go in the snake room and see if anybody is poking their heads out of their hides. I don't have to disturb them by sliding open their tub or leaning my big old head over their home and scaring the you know what out of them. But everyone has their opinions and there are pros and cons to both sides.