tank too big or no?

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Originally Posted by Henry29

go ahead with the nice tank, i hate it when people bury a nice snake in a stink'n rubbermaid container,

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That statement right there shows that you have no clue about the proper husbandry of ball pythons.

I encourage you a call up any of the nationally known ball python breeders and tell them that you think that its horrible when people put ball pythons up in plastic housing.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

yes, just as some use fish...

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no, fish are not the same as snakes. It just so happens that setting up the proper biotope for fish also happens to be aesthetically pleasing. Snakes' enclosures are, in fact, quite the opposite.

Come on, people. Let's not try to read the worst into what someone types in a thread. Many of us enjoy lovely display setups that show off our animals, but that doesn't mean we don't care about the animals. Unless someone actually types something like "I won't put any hides in there because then no one would see my cool snake" or something equally rediculous, then let's just assume he meant that he would like to have a nice display in his room like so many others of us have.

I'm just covering that bases, is all. When someone outwardly knocks one option of housing, using strong words such as "hate" and "stink'n", people viewing threads looking for advice may be discouraged from that option based on the opinion of someone who, odds are, has never even had any experience with the said method of housing. Perhaps he should have stated "I prefer an aesthetically pleasing setup that meets the needs of the animal" instead of saying "i hate it when people bury a nice snake in a stink'n rubbermaid container."

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

I'm just covering that bases, is all. When someone outwardly knocks one option of housing, using strong words such as "hate" and "stink'n", people viewing threads looking for advice may be discouraged from that option based on the opinion of someone who, odds are, has never even had any experience with the said method of housing. Perhaps he should have stated "I prefer an aesthetically pleasing setup that meets the needs of the animal" instead of saying "i hate it when people bury a nice snake in a stink'n rubbermaid container."

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I'm with ya on this one, Brad. I was typing at the same time you were, so my response wasn't directed at yours...just at folks who seemed to jump on tmlowe for saying he wanted a decorative setup, but maybe not saying it in a way they preferred.

Well, if you want a nice setup, you could get a clear tub that is high, (but still long enough for your snake) and decorate it. Pretty much the same thing, and easier.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

well if i wasnt using the tank/snake as kind of a decoration to go with the room, then i would do that.

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I don't know what you are looking to get out of owning a Ball python but let me kindly warn you that pythons are not just decorations. They are beautiful living additions to our homes and lives. Plants, Pictures and little Hummel Statues are decorations. Please be willing to understand and give the animal what it needs or find a sutiable replacement for it I.E painting. The idea that you seem a touch more worried with your decor than the animal is slightly unsettleing. I would almost question your motives for owning the animal. People here are first and fore most snake LOVERS. Our animals welfare is in the fore front of every decision that we make involving them.

Off the soapbox now,

I understand the want for a nice looking tank. Heck all of mine are done to the hilt.You can have an tank or VIV that meets the needs of the animal and still provides the look you want we do it all the time here with our glass VIV's. They can be very pretty and elabrate or rubbermade tubs. Just depends on what you want. Please consider the needs of the animal when setting up their home and making it a part of yours. You can have it both ways. Just takes a little work.

I as well as others tend to read a psot and fear the worst. Please don't take this post as a flame or a thrash. We are here to help and hope your adventure in ball Pythons is a long and happy one. Just makeing sure you understand that they have special needs and that those needs might run counter to what looks best in a certain decor.

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OK.. lol. Here's my advice. I use tanks for my snakes; never had problems with it, since my house temps stay the same. But here's a little tip on transferring them to the new tank; I like to use all of the furnishings the snake had in the previous tank (same hides, water dish, substrate.) Doing this, and moving them quickly to the new tank while someone else holds the snake, I really think stress is kept to a minimum for the snake, who may not even realize he is in a new home. :)

Nothing wrong with having a good looking setup for room decor...

As long as the snake healthy and your keeping proper humidity and temp I say go for the best looking aquarium/terrarium you can get. And to answere your queston I moved my BP into a 30gal tall when it was about the same size and had no problems, I just made sure to give him plenty of hides with all that space.

Just wondering, can you even get a thermal gradient with a tall tank?? Aren't they like octagons???

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Originally Posted by JLC

Come on, people. Let's not try to read the worst into what someone types in a thread. Many of us enjoy lovely display setups that show off our animals, but that doesn't mean we don't care about the animals. Unless someone actually types something like "I won't put any hides in there because then no one would see my cool snake" or something equally rediculous, then let's just assume he meant that he would like to have a nice display in his room like so many others of us have.

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That is exactly what I mean. I DO care for my snake, I DO whatever I can to make sure it is staying healthy, but I also don't want a rubbermaid container sitting on my nightstand just bc it is easier. I want to be able to show off the beauty of a BP to anyone who comes in. Keep in mind, it is mostly 3 or 4 people tops who come into my room anyway.

Freakie_frog, I bought a BP because I have always loved snakes and finally got the chance to own and care for one. Why not make it look good?