How Low?

Odd how it's right before Daytona.

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

3 BEL males, breed them to 20 females, big females that produce 10 eggs each , you are looking at 600 mojaves :)

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That would be like winning the lottery. All of them are going to become gravid, all produce 10 eggs, all of them hatch (No slugs) and all of them be perfect and eat just right.... ?

LMAO!

He said that it is a dominate trate and the breeders that have them have lots of them. Now he did say that he was only saleing 25 Lessers and 25 Mojoves and that price. So who know. I wish I could afford one just to see what came of it. He did say that some morphs like clowns and pieds being a ressieve gene are worth what people charge. But dominate trate like spiders and so forth you pay for two and to can make all you want. These are his words not mine I call him on the phone. He has 7 of the lessers left and no mojoves. He said that a breeder bought his mojoves and all but 7 of his lessers and ran out of money. He said the breeder told him after they were bought that it was irresponsiable of him to sell these at this price and he was buying them to keep them form getting out at that price. Joe was like I don't care who bought them or why as long as their paid for.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I called Joe and here's what he said they aren't rare. So price that way.

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That's it!!
WOW!! How long before they feel Pieds reach this level?
I'd like to buy 2-3 for $500ea..LOL!

The thing is, are you really going to pay $10,000-$20,000 to a Big Breeder when you can by the same snake from another solid big name Breeder for $2500? OUCH!!
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MKR just took away the "No name breeder defense" or the "You get what you pay for defense" or the "Don't support the Jimmy defense" or "Jimmy's don't dictate $$$" reasons for the drop in prices.

Here you have a top level breeder, selling these incredible morphs, below the Jimmy's! :O

Another term for that is called "Dumping them"!

Like I said, hope it is short lived and looks to be that way.

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Originally Posted by Sputnik

I don't think there is anything problematic with those dirty cheap morphs being sold..... but yes, a lot of years and hard work and set backs go into producing ANY morph!

Hopefully the sale is short lived and things go back to normal and not like what has happened to pastels!

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I think i was rambing with the dog bit- meaning, Boxers arent rare, but for sell high. I know people that wont pay more than 200$ for a dog, Regardless as to why it might sell high.
Same with bps- there's a reason, blood. sweat. tears. time.

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Originally Posted by ssscales

The thing is, are you really going to pay $10,000-$20,000 to a Big Breeder when you can by the same snake from another solid big name Breeder for $2500? OUCH!!

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I think a bigger problem are the shoppers that see the falling trend and wiat for it to level out before investing. This is going to hurt the market across the board, but I suppose it's inevitable and should probably be factored in to any breeding/business plans.

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Originally Posted by shhhli

I think i was rambing with the dog bit- meaning, Boxers arent rare, but for sell high. I know people that wont pay more than 200$ for a dog, Regardless as to why it might sell high.
Same with bps- there's a reason, blood. sweat. tears. time.

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Yup, a lot of time.... frustrations etc and yet more time!

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Originally Posted by Sputnik

Another term for that is called "Dumping them"!

Like I said, hope it is short lived and looks to be that way.

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That's what I was going to write!
They just took a nice quick dump on the BP market!

If it was a quick sale and it's done, the Jimmy's won't follow. Most will wait it out till he is sold out of the 5-10-20 morphs they have for sale and life goes on. Now, if MKR and other named breeders play that price game long enough the Jimmy's will lower the bar some more!

I know I'm knew on any scene with snakes but this is just irresponsible in my humble opinion.
H**** or High Water I'm selling these at this price because this is what I think they are worth regardless as to what everyone else feels. Its utterly selfish, irresponsible and WHY is this the only 'market' that makes people feel like screwing others work and then eventually themselves over? Its like everyone who at anyother business would fail jumped on the BP bandwagon.

rant rant.