i rarely catch my snake outside of her cave. i got lucky once and saw her drinking water! when she saw that i was watching her, she immediately froze and stopped. i also see her if i take my f/t hopper and start wiggling it outside of her cave. i think she smells it then starts to come out to get it if i can lure her out. and the only other time i see her is if i want to hold her. i just lift up her cave and voila! there she is. i hope it's okay to do that. there's no other way to make her come out of her cave except to remove it. :zerb: