I can't believe how much was getting missed

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Originally Posted by JenHarrison

I still need to look into the paper you use. Regular newspaper drives me crazy with the ink and oils. What was that website that sells the unused newsprint?

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You can go to any printer's (ask at a newspaper office) and they will give you unused newsprint for cheap or free if you're polite :). Usually it's just the ends of the rolls, but they don't need them.

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Originally Posted by mousch

You can go to any printer's (ask at a newspaper office) and they will give you unused newsprint for cheap or free if you're polite :). Usually it's just the ends of the rolls, but they don't need them.

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Yup! ... That works too! :D

-adam

I prefer keeping my snake on my hometown newspaper. Little taste of home in the city, nothing but the best!
I don't know what you guys with aspen do. I mean maybe my snake is just a splasher but HOLY COW does he slosh the water around in this planter bottom bowl! All that water just goes to the bottom of your substrate?

Adam, the newspapers here are extremely oily...when you get done reading just the classifieds (because that's all I read), your fingers are slick and dark grey. I was originally using our daily papers for the snakes, but their bellies started getting covered in ink, and I noticed all of them were laying on top of their hides versus on top of the paper. It wasn't temps, I use a Ranco with a separate digital thermometer to double-check, and the warm end was where I set it - 90. That's why I switched to Carefresh, and they stopped doing that. Well, I also switched due to the fact that my 2 fatass males like to dump their waterbowls or squeeze into them and push the water out, no matter what type I give them. The newspaper wasn't absorbing it and they were sitting in a lake all night until I'd discover it in the morning. The Carefresh would absorb the water.


I'll give the KDH a call and see if they have any roll ends available.

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Originally Posted by JenHarrison

Adam, the newspapers here are extremely oily.

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It's not oil ... That's just ink ... it's harmless ... and your snakes have much more smeared doot and urine on them that you don't see than ink on their bellies from the paper.

I promise you that I know a little bit about what I'm talking about. :sweeet:

-adam

What you're feeling is ink. The ink is vegetable based, so it comes off easy. It's to make it biodegradable. I can promise you that ink is no more dangerous than a grass stain, but the smeared ink does ruin any aesthetic quality you may have been going for.

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Originally Posted by mousch

...the smeared ink does ruin any aesthetic quality you may have been going for.

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Exactly. I hate getting it on me when I read the paper, let alone picking up one of my snakes. Plus the whole water-dumping thing was a pain with newspaper. Carefresh has worked well for me and it gets completely changed every Sunday...but I am still curious about that unprinted stuff. KDH hasn't returned my call yet, so we'll see.

I have a quick question concerning when you guys switched to newspaper and noticing how much more liquid there was then when using other things.
When paper/newspaper gets wet the wet spot expands and covers a large area. Kinda like ever drop a small drop of water on newspaer and it absorbs it and the small drop/wet spot is now about the size of the bottom of a coffee cup?
Not saying that newspaper is not a good clean thing to keep your bp on because it is. Just saying do you think the absorption/expension of the paper just makes it look like a lot of liquid.

I was just wondering.

No, it is a lot of liquid. Carefresh doesn't have that same massive-expansion effect that newspaper does, but yet when my snake urinates I have to use a glove and clean out 2-3 handfuls of Carefresh that were damp with urine. They pee a lot more than people think. :)

Thanks!
I was just wondering, you know, wandering minds :)