PROOF that pet stores know nothing...

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Originally Posted by Rapture

I think a lot of places that keep multiple types of animals put the mammals and birds on the top of the maintenance list seeing as what kind of messes they are capable of making. The reptiles get left at the end considering they don't get busy and run out of time to do them, and then they see that they were fine for that one day they didn't get done, so another day goes by, and another, and the next thing you know, all their water has evaporated and they've gone without for a few days. I think that's how it goes at a store here in Houston that sells puppies, kittens, birds, fish, and reptiles. None of the reptiles had water and you could see the evaporation lines on the dishes. The leopard gecko babies were overcrowded, with a couple nice fat ones, and all the rest malnourished and weak. :(

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That's why you have different people for different departments. I swear, hire more people. I'd love to work in the reptile section of Petco. I think they'd see a huge sales increase if I was hired. :P

I think that saying that all 'pet stores' know nothing about caring for reptiles is incorrect. Large chain pet stores lite Petsmart and Petco don't specialize in reptiles, so they don't focus too much on them. There are some pet stores that specialize in reptiles and snakes, and their staff is generally knowledgable about the care of these animals. Also take into consideration that their goal is to sell these animals and they may not be able to provide perfect husbandry due to lack of space. Just because one pet store is bad about their care doesn't mean that they all are.

okay, not all pet stores are...but ne way...in that same tank they had 3 BP's and no hides....so the snakes were just curled up in the corner....i could work at the pet store that i got my snake from but idk if i want to...

Go into Slither and Swim in West Haven CT.


They specialize in reptiles.

If you can stand the smell and actually get in the door, you will be amazed at the filth and overcrowding and housing of incompatable species in some of the setups they have there. A lot of the animals don't even have a heat source.

The albino burm right in the front has such a severe RI that it wheezes, blows out fluid, and can't close it's mouth all the way due to the infection. They know it's extremely sick and their response is that it would cost too much to treat it so the owner won't bring it to the vet. They are hoping someone pays the $400 to buy it before it ends up dying.

That is so sad, that poor snake. I can understand pet stores neglecting things like that but not a reptile shop. They need to be shut down, if they can't even do basic care, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

Go into Slither and Swim in West Haven CT.


They specialize in reptiles.

If you can stand the smell and actually get in the door, you will be amazed at the filth and overcrowding and housing of incompatable species in some of the setups they have there. A lot of the animals don't even have a heat source.

The albino burm right in the front has such a severe RI that it wheezes, blows out fluid, and can't close it's mouth all the way due to the infection. They know it's extremely sick and their response is that it would cost too much to treat it so the owner won't bring it to the vet. They are hoping someone pays the $400 to buy it before it ends up dying.

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I wish I lived closer; I would go in and give them a piece of my mind...

The place I got Orpheus from use to be a reptile only store. Dealing only with Retiles and the like. :carrot:

Went in a week ago to get supplys for my new comer and what do I see fish and furries every where. The reptiles had moved to a little corner in the back.
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Then the crying started. 10 to 15 hatchlings in on big tank no I said NO substrate and one hide. All had stuck sheds and poop every where. :soapbx:

Then the Beardie's same thing and also with the carpets and the Burms. :cens0r: :cens0r: :cens0r: :cens0r: :cens0r:

Give them away if your not going to take care of them or stop selling them sorry :cens0r: :taz: :fork:

You do get some bad stores, but yes, there are good ones around too! Around my area there are a few that host reptiles (About 5 stores) and the care and setups are nice!

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

The place I got Orpheus from use to be a reptile only store. Dealing only with Retiles and the like. :carrot:

Went in a week ago to get supplys for my new comer and what do I see fish and furries every where. The reptiles had moved to a little corner in the back.
:confused:

Then the crying started. 10 to 15 hatchlings in on big tank no I said NO substrate and one hide. All had stuck sheds and poop every where. :soapbx:

Then the Beardie's same thing and also with the carpets and the Burms. :cens0r: :cens0r: :cens0r: :cens0r: :cens0r:

Give them away if your not going to take care of them or stop selling them sorry :cens0r: :taz: :fork:

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i like the animation after every comment... :sweeet:

The thing that a lot of people don't realize is that just like there are good pet stores and bad pet stores, there are also good breeders and bad breeders. If a bad pet store that is open to the public and inspected by the health department in most communities has snakes in filthy, crowded conditions .... how do you think a bad breeder that has a private facility that no one ever sees is going to keep his/her animals ... and the kicker is that those are the guys/gals that usually have the "deals" that everyone loves to take advantage of.

There is a lot of overhead in buying caging for every single animal you produce, buying hides, vet bills, feeding every single snake every single week, paying people to help keep your facility clean ... the "good guys" need to charge what they charge to cover the overhead of running a top notch operation ... the "bad guys" could not care less if they house multiple snakes in a single tub in a rack, don't provide hides, clean cages when they get to it ... they are just making their money moving snakes as fast as they can with low low prices .... so next time you see a "great deal" on the classified somewhere think about how that animal might have been kept? ... Maybe in a 15 gallon tank with one hide and no water ... piled on top of 10 other snakes ... maybe covered in feces and old sheds .... maybe next to a cage with an adult snake with RI .... I know what you’re going to say … oh no Adam, surely that doesn’t happen with high end morphs … LMAO … you bet it does! … Just something to think about. ;)

Sorry for going off topic, but private breeders are not immune from the same problems pet stores have ... do your home work before you buy ... from ANYWHERE!

-adam