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Re: What is theses?
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Originally Posted by tigerlily
So you are against all hybrids or is it just the snake variety you find distasteful?
As for the rep points.... It's not your opinions that will get you in trouble, but the manner in which you present it.
I know people will get mad at this but I feel I have the right to say it.
Making hybrids is only taking chances that the babies will turn out healthy. Reptiles have been around for a very long time and have came up with adaptions to live where they do. Making hybrids basically forces the snakes to go through the changes that they wouldn't need to do if people would have just left it how its supposed to be. Not even in the next thousand years will africa and australia bump together and these 2 species will colide in range. Not happening any time soon so why should we let them do what isn't natural. Ever wonder why many hybrids are infertile? Probably because its not meant to happen.
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Re: What is theses?
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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
I know people will get mad at this but I feel I have the right to say it.
Making hybrids is only taking chances that the babies will turn out healthy. Reptiles have been around for a very long time and have came up with adaptions to live where they do. Making hybrids basically forces the snakes to go through the changes that they wouldn't need to do if people would have just left it how its supposed to be. Not even in the next thousand years will africa and australia bump together and these 2 species will colide in range. Not happening any time soon so why should we let them do what isn't natural. Ever wonder why many hybrids are infertile? Probably because its not meant to happen.
By no means are you making me mad, but I do highly disagree with you. Hybrids happen all the time in nature. For instance the polar/grizzly hybrid just recently discovered. This country was help built by another hybird, the mule. If not for mules, the canals would not have been as successful. Just because we disagree, doesn't mean that I take everything you say as an attack. If you believe that way, find a way to intelligently articulate it. Give some basis for your opinion, and be prepared for others to disagree with you. It's the basis of debate. You'll never get anyone to listen if you are constantly arguementative or hostile. Not everyone is going to agree with you, and you should expect that.
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Re: What is theses?
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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
Not happening any time soon so why should we let them do what isn't natural.
So the 1.1 rtbs listed in your profile that are living in a tank, or plastic container, or other type of enclosure are "natural"?
-adam
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Re: What is theses?
Pork Chops, nature didn't intend for your snakes to live in Rubbermaid or glass enclosures either dear. Some would call you and me unethical and cruel because we choose to keep what is a creature meant for the wild, in our livingrooms.
The fact is humans affect nature every second we exist in nature - we effect it more than another other living creature. You cannot pick and choose what affect is "ethical" across the board! Whether or not a hybrid is "ethical" isn't for you or anyone to say as your ethics and mine and Kevin's are all our own and based on what we believe and know of our world, snake breeding, etc.
I personally don't care for the Derma Ball for instance (and it's not a hybrid). It makes me sad for some reason. Do I think I have to right to tell someone they should not own or reproduce it? Of course not! I can only choose not to own one because for me it's not appealing.
The only ethics I see in hybrids or ANY breeding is that you breed from healthy stock, you know your snakes and the genetics involved, you hatch healthy snakes and represent them properly in all ways.
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Re: What is theses?
ok people back to the snake! lol
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Re: What is theses?
basuca, i think you're right, a woma x ball. thats what it looks like to me.
Pork Chops, i have no problem that you dont like hybrids its just the way you say you dont but im not taking any rep. points because i know you must feel strongly about this and that's why you express it strongly.
personally i think hybrids are pretty cool, but i also dont like the idea of some. like animals that are hybridized but can no longer be imported/exported and look almost the same to where you cant tell if its a hybrid or what, such as ackies.
ackies can no longer be exported/imported from australia but people sometimes hybridize them. the thing i dont like about that is now people lose track of what kinda of ackie it is because they look so similar and they dont know what they have. this inturn creates 'dirty' bloodlines. im not completely against it, i just dont like it. i would be completely for hybrids all the way if people would take better care of tracking their animals so animals like ackies dont get all mixed up.
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Re: What is theses?
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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
So the 1.1 rtbs listed in your profile that are living in a tank, or plastic container, or other type of enclosure are "natural"?
-adam
Schooled! Class is over...
Aren't hybrids those cars that run on gasoline and battery power? I'm really confused? Do they have those in Africa and Australia?
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Re: What is theses?
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Originally Posted by jglass38
Class is over...
Does that mean I can get out of the corner and take the funny hat off? :D
-adam
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Re: What is theses?
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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
Does that mean I can get out of the corner and take the funny hat off? :D
-adam
School is out..You can go take the schoolgirl uniform off...
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Re: What is theses?
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Originally Posted by jglass38
School is out..You can go take the schoolgirl uniform off...
Jamie, this is Adam posting bro ........... not cue. :groinkick
-adam
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