Nope, but I've spent A LOT of time around lawyers. ;)
-adam
Just as bad if not worse than the actual test. :)
05-23-2006, 03:32 PM
daniel1983
Re: Ethics of Hybrids
I look at hybridizing different animals in the same way that I see mixing localities... I do not see anything wrong with it as long as people that own them keep full records of their genetic history and do not market them as something that they are not...
Hybrids are not around in numbers like locality animals, so I think the type of problems that have happened with 'locality' animals will eventually happen with hybrids once they have higher numbers.
05-23-2006, 03:37 PM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: Ethics of Hybrids
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smulkin
Sure - you could extend the underlying logic to cover any number of scenarios not adressed in the original topic.
I think my point was that as a herp keeper, whether I agree or disagree with the production of hybrids, I wouldn't be particularly in favor of any argument either for or against them that could also be extended to potentially take away my rights to keep non-hybrid animals.
It may sound like a leap, but with the tide of anti-exotic politics sweeping across the US in recent years it would be a shame if anti herp legislation was fueled by an idea that came from a petty squabble within the herp community itself.
Not a sermon, just a random thought from a guy with a tremendous amount of passion for my right to keep these animals. ;)
-adam
05-23-2006, 03:44 PM
Smulkin
Re: Ethics of Hybrids
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
I think my point was that as a herp keeper, whether I agree or disagree with the production of hybrids, I wouldn't be particularly in favor of any argument either for or against them that could also be extended to potentially take away my rights to keep non-hybrid animals.
It may sound like a leap, but with the tide of anti-exotic politics sweeping across the US in recent years it would be a shame if anti herp legislation was fueled by an idea that came from a petty squabble within the herp community itself.
Not a sermon, just a random thought from a guy with a tremendous amount of passion for my right to keep these animals. ;)
-adam
A valid concern. I was just trying to respond to the OP's Poll topic.
05-23-2006, 03:49 PM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: Ethics of Hybrids
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smulkin
A valid concern. I was just trying to respond to the OP's Poll topic.
Yup, got that. :D I was just discussing. ;)
-adam
05-23-2006, 04:13 PM
TekWarren
Re: Ethics of Hybrids
I chose that I would keep one. The only main concern I would have is with the process of finding out what hybrid crosses work. Its disheartening thinking about the crosses that didnt work and what various stages offspring might make it to before their life ends. Basically genetic deformities or mutants that can't survive. Although I'll be the first to admit that I can't speak from experience maybe this a more rare occurance than I would think.
05-23-2006, 04:22 PM
4theSNAKElady
Re: Ethics of Hybrids
I would own a hybrid, if I had the $$$$ to buy the flippin' sweet lookin GTP and JCP cross....so cool lookin'! But I am in total agreement with Adam. Why worry about this topic when there are BIGGER topics regarding keeping snakes to worry about.....A lot of states around my area are "cracking down" on the keeping of reptiles. I used to live in DE, and most folks in DE are keeping there BPs in fear because you see all the time people getting their private collections taken away just because they didn't have a permit to keep them. ....Which is why I don't live in DE anymore.In DE, you have to pay $25.00 per snake and in New Castle county, you have to have an acre of ground as well. Pleeez!!! I don't even know if an acre of ground even exsists anymore in New Castle county. Could you imagine if breeders like Adam had to pay $25 per snake just to be able to own them legally??!!!! Issues like these are what we need to take a stand about and fight for...
05-23-2006, 05:02 PM
xdeus
Re: Ethics of Hybrids
I'd love to own a hybrid. These gas prices are killing me! :imslow: :ohmygod:
05-23-2006, 05:10 PM
JimiSnakes
Re: Ethics of Hybrids
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I'd love to own a hybrid. These gas prices are killing me!
LMAO.
Anyways, I own two crosses and let me tell ya, I've been in more heated arguements over them than I have with my baby's mother. That's a lot. I don't see why people, who won't buy them to begin with, have such a problem with me owning them. Jeesh! I also have come to the conclusion that those with this problem seem to have the same problem with any type of genetic morph. :groinkick That's what I got to say!
05-23-2006, 07:00 PM
Shelby
Re: Ethics of Hybrids
Quote:
Originally Posted by TekWarren
I chose that I would keep one. The only main concern I would have is with the process of finding out what hybrid crosses work. Its disheartening thinking about the crosses that didnt work and what various stages offspring might make it to before their life ends. Basically genetic deformities or mutants that can't survive. Although I'll be the first to admit that I can't speak from experience maybe this a more rare occurance than I would think.
Hybrid offspring are generally hardier and healthier than their parent stock (it's known as 'hybrid vigor')
If the cross doesn't 'work' then the eggs will simply not be fertilized in the first place.. at least that is how I understand it.
