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Yes hooks are very useful, especially if you're feeling a bit timid. Gloves are a help too. I use both regularly for some of my less than calm snakes.

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A baby ball biting you? Pour alcohol in its mouth? Are you serious...? I would rather be bit by a baby ball, feeding response or not, than get a paper cut or have to deal with someone's flippin' evil Pomeranian or Poodle ANY day. The safe thing to do "if" a baby ball python ever bites you is to be calm and LET it bite you. There is more harm done if you try to do something. Breaking their teeth off can cause alot more problems than if you just sat there and let him chew on you.

I think I'd take pinpoint holes that I can't find again in the morning over a baby ball having mouth abscesses from teeth ripping out or irritation from having alcohol poured in its mouth(or aspiration into the lungs)...

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As i stated before i probablly wouldnt use the alcohol and do not know of the negative affects it would have on the snake. Things i have read!! Babies grow up, snakes will always be snakes and you may have unconditional love for your snake just remember your snake has unconditional curiousity torwards you!! Knowing a few techniques for getting any kind of constrictor off of you or someone that may be handling your snake in my mind is a responsibility you should not over look! There are many different situations that can occur wether it be a feeding response attack and your buddys kid is handling him for a minute or whatever, you should know atleast 2 different ways of getting that snake off for his safety and the person being attacked!!

Reach on in there and take those tags! You'll be a better person for it! :)

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Reach on in there and take those tags! You'll be a better
person for it! :)

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haha that's what i keep trying to tell myself. Mine too likes to be in the S shape a lot but lately i just reach in there stroke him, then pick him up. I've seen a huge improvement in my boa within the last 2-3 weeks from reg. handling and not letting his aggression shy me away.

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As i stated before i probablly wouldnt use the alcohol and do not know of the negative affects it would have on the snake. Things i have read!! Babies grow up, snakes will always be snakes and you may have unconditional love for your snake just remember your snake has unconditional curiousity torwards you!! Knowing a few techniques for getting any kind of constrictor off of you or someone that may be handling your snake in my mind is a responsibility you should not over look! There are many different situations that can occur wether it be a feeding response attack and your buddys kid is handling him for a minute or whatever, you should know atleast 2 different ways of getting that snake off for his safety and the person being attacked!!

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The 'techniques' that you refered to are sometimes recommended for LARGE snakes. It seems that since they are recommended on a TV show about large constrictors that makes them the best option for ALL snakes. ALL of those recommendations can be harmful to a smaller animal. The recommendations that you made would be similar to recommending how to get a house cat off a person by refering to what to do if a tiger attacks. I have been bitten by ball pythons(big and small) NUMEROUS times and have never had a reason to use any of those methods.

A defensive strike is just that.....defensive. In this situation the person is the 'attacker' and generally the ball python will only 'tap' the person. This situation rarely results in any pain or even blood.

A food response strike is intended for food and is usually the keepers fault. Not feeding without tongs and handling with 'animal' smell on your hands are the two most common mistakes.

Look out.....she bites ;)
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Good lord!! Are certain people really that closed minded!!!???? Big, little, white, black, who give a $%^*!!! If you read my post I said a feeding response attack NOT a defensive attack!! If i just got taged by my snake and it was not attached to my arm of course im not going to go running around pouring buckets of water on it etc.
If for some reason you have your friend over and there 12 year old wants to hold your snake and for some unknown reason he bites the kids arm and wraps himself up around his arm then Im thinking it would be a good idea to try and get him off and knowing how to do that makes you a responsible keeper!! Just 2 days a girl got bite and the snake constricted her arm, she tried a few different things to get him off and none worked for her. She finally had to soak him in a bucket of ice water! The snake was on her arm for 5 minutes plus! Im not going to argue with everyone on this, if you dont think that knowing general knowledge of how to get any size constrictor/snake off you then thats your own opinion! I was simply giving some advice to people that may not know or of thought about the situation ever accuring!!

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The 'techniques' that you refered to are sometimes recommended for LARGE snakes. It seems that since they are recommended on a TV show about large constrictors that makes them the best option for ALL snakes. ALL of those recommendations can be harmful to a smaller animal. The recommendations that you made would be similar to recommending how to get a house cat off a person by refering to what to do if a tiger attacks. I have been bitten by ball pythons(big and small) NUMEROUS times and have never had a reason to use any of those methods.

A defensive strike is just that.....defensive. In this situation the person is the 'attacker' and generally the ball python will only 'tap' the person. This situation rarely results in any pain or even blood.

A food response strike is intended for food and is usually the keepers fault. Not feeding without tongs and handling with 'animal' smell on your hands are the two most common mistakes.

Look out.....she bites ;)

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Dead on there! Thanks Daniel!

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Good lord!! Are certain people really that closed minded!!!???? Big, little, white, black, who give a $%^*!!!

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There is no reason for that.

You gave advice. I think your advice is WRONG for BALL PYTHONS and stated my thoughts on the topic. It is that simple and is nothing personal.

Gotta love forums and peoples differences!! You stated your thoughts and i stated mine! You think im wrong and i think your wrong! Lets go have a beer and call it a day! :)

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Gotta love forums and peoples differences!! You stated your thoughts and i stated mine! You think im wrong and i think your wrong! Lets go have a beer and call it a day! :)

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The difference is that no one accused you of being closed minded, nor resorted to veiled cursing. Differences of opinion are fine, but we work hard to keep things civil.

And please understand that when experienced, respected members get a bit vehement in their disagreements, it is never personal. It is because they are passionate not only about their own animals' well beings, but the health and "happiness" of all our member's pets...especially the new people who are just learning and may read dangerously wrong information and take it to heart. Just keep that in mind, please. We feel it is our responsibility (and even our whole purpose for being here) to provide accurate and safe information for people who want to learn how to best take care of their reptiles.