Starter Morphs

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Originally Posted by fenez

Maybe a pair of het pieds? You'd be spending the full $1000 (maybe a couple hundred more) but it would be worth every penny if you like the piebald.

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While I agree a quality pair of het pieds would be worth every penny, it's gonna take a few more penny's get a quality pair of het pieds, which looking around at the big breeder websites will put you at $2000 ($250 seems a pretty standard price for a het pied male, $1750ish for a het pied female).

If you are talking about possible hets, then yes, you can probably get them for less...but then they may not be "worth every penny". =)

If i were to breed a male het pied with a normale female, is there a chance of getting a homozygous pied?

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Originally Posted by Bucko

If i were to breed a male het pied with a normale female, is there a chance of getting a homozygous pied?

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No.

no, you would get babies that are 50% possible het pied.

you would have to raise the females and breed back to 100%het male to prove them. good way to get a pied at minimal cost, downside is 3-5yr project!!!


vaughn

Are there any morphs that you can breed a het to a normale and get homozygous babies?

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Originally Posted by Bucko

Are there any morphs that you can breed a het to a normale and get homozygous babies?

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No, however there are Co-dominant morphs such as the Spider and Pinstripe that will produce that morph when crossed with a normal. They are still heterozygous, though.

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Originally Posted by Bucko

Are there any morphs that you can breed a het to a normale and get homozygous babies?

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Sort of. Pastels, for example, are "het for super pastel"...if you want to look at it that way. And you can breed those to a normal and have a good chance of getting more pastels.

Spider is another morph that you can breed to a normal and get more spiders.

There are other examples as well, but those are the others I can think of are even more expensive than those two mentioned.

EDIT: And here I am making the same technical error I tweaked Jamie for making earlier. I read your question too fast. NO...you can't get homozygous animals by breeding het to normal...but you can get the visual morphs that I mentioned!

Alright thanks a lot, i am leaning towards breeding a few normals to get the hang of breeding before i start spending lots of money and find out that breeding is not for me.

you may be thinking about co-dom morphs like pastel,spider,pinstripe,lesser,etc. co-doms, when bred to a normal= 1/2 normal,1/2 co-dom babies.


hets are generally associated with recessive traits. recessives like pieds,albinos,hypos need both parents to have the gene for that morph.
hetxnorm= 50% poss. hets
hetxhet=1/4 morph(visual)/homo, 1/4 normal,1/2 hets

check out some search pages under breeding/genetics on this site and others to help you out.

vaughn

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Originally Posted by cassandra

While I agree a quality pair of het pieds would be worth every penny, it's gonna take a few more penny's get a quality pair of het pieds, which looking around at the big breeder websites will put you at $2000 ($250 seems a pretty standard price for a het pied male, $1750ish for a het pied female).

If you are talking about possible hets, then yes, you can probably get them for less...but then they may not be "worth every penny". =)

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Shop around and do some research because you can definitely get a pair of 100% het pieds for well under 2000 from a reputable breeder. My 1.1 '05 het pieds are proof of this! I don't mean to sound rude at all... I just wanted to say, as someone who recently went through the process of finding a "starter morph," that a pair of 100% het pieds can be found either on the classifieds/web or at a reptile show for 1200-1400 if you keep your eyes open.

Of course one must be careful about scammers but that's an entirely different topic altogether...