Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
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Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls
Legislators like this because its also a great way for the government to get extra revenue from the permit fees.....in fact that probably the real reason why so many of them are for it!
I really don't think that is it. I am pretty sure that any revenue from these permits go to the LA conservation fund. These politicians are voting for it because they are uneducated on the topic and are being pestered by animal activists. Creating a bill that is so general like this.....they are going to have to hire new people to process the permits, space to file them, time for inspections to take place, etc....no extra money there....the permits probably wont even pay for themselves. You have to really think about the range of reptiles that this effects....basically every snake in the pet trade. and you also have to be aware of how many people own smaller constrictors....
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Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls
I am not for censorship......however, because in the long run its education about reptiles and reason that makes people un-fearful of snakes.....
No one said anything about censorship. Education is about effort. It is alot easier for someone to watch a 3 min video clip of a snake biting a person or constricting a dog and forming an opinion, than for them to research an animal and open their mind. I only asked for people not to spread this trash.....that is not censorship.
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Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls
Personally, I don’t think anyone expect zoos, museums, and research facilities should own a hot snake or a snake as big as an anaconda.....these animals belong in the wild.
Thats how it gets started....then it develops into noone should own any reptiles because they belong in the wild.
The current qualifications to own venomous snakes or constrictors over 12 feet in Louisiana consist of getting 500 hours of approved handling and care experience, having your enclosure inspected by the DWF, applying for the permit and paying the fee, and risking not being able to own these animals if something were to happen. I see nothing wrong with those qualifications. But putting those qualifications on someone that want to own a ball python is just crazy.
Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
I really don't think that is it. I am pretty sure that any revenue from these permits go to the LA conservation fund. These politicians are voting for it because they are uneducated on the topic and are being pestered by animal activists. Creating a bill that is so general like this.....they are going to have to hire new people to process the permits, space to file them, time for inspections to take place, etc....no extra money there....the permits probably wont even pay for themselves.
You right here....butthe same uneducated politicians are so stupid they probably dont really think about the finances of it real closely...
Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
the anaconda was only doing what they do... hunt and eat. we watch nature channel shows on wasps attacking a bees nest and no one gets all crazy about it... i personally think we all put ourselves waaaaay too high on the list of importance on this planet. each creature deserves the same right to survive.
we have taken away their natural habitat and then hate them when they come into "ours" - when in reality, we've taken 99% of this planet as "ours".
rant over...
Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
no i lied... i'm not done ranting.
having the gov't come into a hobbyists home and decide whether or not we are giving good care and safe environments to our critters is wrong wrong wrong.
okay now i think i'm done.
okay no i'm not... and i agree with everything said in this thread.
there, now i'm done.
for now...
Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
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Originally Posted by recycling goddess
the anaconda was only doing what they do... hunt and eat. we watch nature channel shows on wasps attacking a bees nest and no one gets all crazy about it... i personally think we all put ourselves waaaaay too high on the list of importance on this planet. each creature deserves the same right to survive.
we have taken away their natural habitat and then hate them when they come into "ours" - when in reality, we've taken 99% of this planet as "ours".
rant over...
Totally agree...personally I dont think we should worry less about the spread of vids like that (cause with sites like Ebaum's world, YourTube its impossible to stop their spread anyway).....instead, we should be distrubed by the reaction that it ellicits in so many people......
They show vids of wild dogs hunting, elephant tramping people to death....and really no one gets upset....
Reptiles just have a bad rap, a bad preception....and that's what we need to change....they need to get better press and marketing overall as a taxa!
Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
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Originally Posted by recycling goddess
the anaconda was only doing what they do... hunt and eat. we watch nature channel shows on wasps attacking a bees nest and no one gets all crazy about it... i personally think we all put ourselves waaaaay too high on the list of importance on this planet. each creature deserves the same right to survive.
we have taken away their natural habitat and then hate them when they come into "ours" - when in reality, we've taken 99% of this planet as "ours".
Agreed. But you have to remember that ALOT of people do not understand that. They see a snake that is killing their pet poodle.
I read an article about some idiot beating an endangered black bear with a board because it was attacking a deer fawn. It is nature. But some people don't seem to understand that....they think all animals should cuddle with each other and eat plants.
Some people just dont understand....and never will.
It seems like my two favorite hobbies are always under attack....hunting and snake keeping...i am just getting fed up.... in both situations it is always the idiots involved in the hobby that cause the problems, and the animal rights groups pushing for new laws.
Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
As a person who owns three anacondas, I can very surely say these are highly misunderstoood animals. And yes, an experienced snake person CAN own them safely! The government has no business saying what animals a person can and can't own IMO.
Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
Wow...I feel sorry for both of them =( I'm a huge dog lover, so I'm glad they saved it, but it's not like that poor snake knew any better....and killing it was just unnecessary....
Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
Anyone can have a kid, 15 year old, junkies ect. However, you need a liscence to have a car and possibly in the future a snake ... Hmmm, seems a lil odd to me?
Re: Green Anaconda Trying to eat a dog (vid)
If they're going to force people to have a liscence for owning a car or owning constrictors, then we should have to have a liscence to reproduce.
