Possible theft/scam related to snake shipping

This second "missing" box of snakes makes perfect sense to me. Especially after reading the whole BOI thread, viewing the pics of the original box, and an impunable witness coming forward who was there when the box was opened. If you read that thread, I don't think there can be any doubt that the box never had a snake in it. And then look at the time frame, from the later posts in the thread, its clear that the intended recipient is planning legal action. So, what does the shipper do? He sends out another empty box, then contacts the police, in an attempt to establish plausible deniablity. He says to the police, "I've already been publicly accused of defrauding one customer, I wouldn't be stupid enough to do it to another!" Just look at everyone's reaction to the info that another box arrived empty, people who were ready to lynch the guy are now reconsidering their opinion. Ask yourself this, if he really thought it was someone at the shipping store who took the original snake, why would he trust them with anything again? Especially UPS, which has a strict policy against shipping live snakes! That's why he couldn't contact UPS in the first place to start an investigation there, if he told them what was in the box, they'd pull his account and tell him to shove off. I may be completely off base here, but I can see twisted logic in the whole thing.

I apoligize and ask that this be removed by a mod. You are correct that I did not read that earlier thread, specicfically because it said "gossip" in the tag line. Should have read that first.
I go by the news services too much occasionally although I do take it all with a grain of salt. Currantly reading through the BOI listing.
Thank you.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

I did not read that earlier thread, specicfically because it said "gossip" in the tag line.

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Similarly I am guilty.

"Gossip" deters me ;)

No problem Wolfy I just merged the threads (my first attempt and wow I didn't accidentally crash the site...whoohoooo go me! LOL) plus changed the title so both threads are reflected and so on and so forth and all that stuff. :)

The reason I put "gossip" in the title was because it essentially is. Most of it, including the news article, is based on heresay. I didn't want to turn this forum into the BOI, but I thought the thread in BOI and the news article posted on this site was interesting enough to warrant a thread. :evileye:

Hope the new title meets the general meaning of the threads. If not, please let me know and I'll fix it up again LOL (thanks for your patience with the new Mod on the block).

Aaaah thankye Jo!

I meant nothgin derogatory about the choice of thread title - only that the gossip/drama level I gots to contend with is such that if I can I will actively avoid getting close to any more ;) Not to detract from the issue at hand I now exeunt.

I just found an interesting "auction" on reptileauctions.com, labeled Super Pastel Ball Stolen! But it doesnt have anything to do with this. Still interesting since it is a super as well..

Oh, no it is a good descrption, I just was saying why I didn't happen to read it.
Thank you for merging the threads! You are such a good mod.
wolfy

In the end even if the snake was stolen from its box before delivery (which seems very unlikely even with the new events in the thread) Its ultimatly the senders responcibility to reimburse the reciever the money or the Cinny he was given in exchange as his policy on his website reads that he guarantees delivery. As such it doesnt matter if it was stolen, crushed, frozen, burned, misdelivered, or beamed to the Alpha Quadrent.... its his responcibility to reimburse the reciever.
Alot of professional traders and sellers in the buisness include provisions about delays and mishandling and temps causeing failure of proper delivery but his does not it simply states that he guarantees it so he should have been responcible in the first place and owned up to it. As it is it looks like legal action is going to be taken against him.