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  • 03-08-2006, 04:09 PM
    monkeywrench133
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    I think people dont know the care requirements or size they will get to.

    98% of the people how buy ANY reptile don't know the care requirements or size. I'd bet 75% or reptile purchases are impulse purchases. If most people realized that they'd have to spend $200-500 to set up proper caging for a $70 BP or Boa, they'd never buy one.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    I think the people breeding them take advantage of it.

    I'm sure there are cases where that's true, but the majority of responsible breeders aren't. I just bought two reticulated pythons, the breeder I bought them from wouldn't sell them to me until she was satisfied that I understood what I was getting into. No reputable breeder wants his/her product getting into the hands of someone who won't treat them responsibly, they have too much to lose.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    Maybe the real question IS how can it be regulated?

    Easy, call you state legislators, and ask them to pass a law banning the ownership of "giant snakes" in your state, and once that pandora's box is opened, they'll ban the sale of any constrictor, period, because they won't know, nor care about, the difference. They'll just write a law banning "constrictors or other dangerous reptiles", and you won't even be able to own a ratsnake. Look at what just happened in NYC.
  • 03-08-2006, 04:29 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    First off, I doubt if you call Bob Clark to purchase a Retic that he spends even a minute asking you whether you understand the requirements and size. I could be wrong (its happened before)

    As far as NYC, all they have banned is large boids (just as far as snakes go. I dont know the law as it relates to llizards or amphibians). The original law banned all members of the boidae family but I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) that it was then amended to just include the largest members of the family.

    Listen, I could care less what people buy. I am not the protector of all things living. I do believe there is a happy medium somewhere out there between selling baby burms to 15 yr olds and outright banning of the large constrictors. That said, I don't own any large snakes (other than my BCI) and have no interest in owning one. Why take up all that space that could be dedicated to more Balls!
  • 03-08-2006, 04:41 PM
    monkeywrench133
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    The original law banned all members of the boidae family.

    Exactly

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    Listen, I could care less what people buy. I am not the protector of all things living. I do believe there is a happy medium somewhere out there between selling baby burms to 15 yr olds and outright banning of the large constrictors. That said, I don't own any large snakes (other than my BCI) and have no interest in owning one. Why take up all that space that could be dedicated to more Balls!

    in other words, as long as they don't mess with BPs, you don't care what they ban or outlaw.
  • 03-08-2006, 04:45 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by monkeywrench133
    Exactly

    So they did amend the law?

    in other words, as long as they don't mess with BPs, you don't care what they ban or outlaw.

    I think maybe you should reread what I said. I didn't say ANYTHING close to that. Cmon now...
  • 03-08-2006, 04:48 PM
    Smulkin
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    Let's breathe deep and easy folks.

    There's really no reason this should devolve into a contentious thread.
  • 03-08-2006, 05:07 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    I'd like to say a couple of things.

    First.. I've met a lot more nasty poodles than pits.. and I'm a dog groomer, I see a LOT of dogs. Pits are some of the sweetest dogs they are. They were bred to be DOG aggressive, not people aggressive. In the 1800s when dog fighting was more popular, any dog that exhibited human aggression was culled.

    Enough of that. lol

    Yellow anacondas are not the same as green anacondas. My male is likely full grown at 6.5'. Females can grow 10-12'.. not much bigger than a large BCI!

    I am passionate about the larger species. I love them.. they to me are awe inspiring and are well worth the space they take up. (why have 10 BPs when you can have a burm? ;) )
  • 03-08-2006, 05:10 PM
    monkeywrench133
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    Sorry Smulkin, as a responsible owner of both giant snakes and pit bulls, maybe I took this thread a little too personally.
  • 03-08-2006, 05:17 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    Dogs are way more dangerous than snakes. Not my point and probably shouldn't have mentioned it.

    I dont mind people taking things personally, we should all be so passionate about our animals! What I do mind is twisting what I say to make a point.
  • 03-08-2006, 05:21 PM
    Smulkin
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    No need to apologize - I wasn't directing my comment at particulars :)

    It's easy to take things personally . . what with all of us being persons and all that jazz.

    (<--- unabashed AfRock owner)
  • 03-08-2006, 05:21 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Why are so many breeding giants?
    Some people are always going to be irresponsible about things.. weather it is driving their car, abusing their dog, or buying a snake species they are not ready for. That alone is no reason to ban the ownership, or right to have these things.

    Another side note is that male green anacondas are MUCH smaller than females.. average length is 8-10'.
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