false water cobras

lol you are right. Serves me right for not reading the thread first. :P

I had lumped them together with hognoses (as far as minimal toxicity rear fanged colubrids) in my head for some reason. I never was interested in them, so didn't do any research.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

lol you are right. Serves me right for not reading the thread first. :P

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That's what edit is for.

I have no problem with someone gathering information, and the folks "on the other forum" gave him excellent advice - it just wasn't what he wanted to hear.

In the other thread he actually asked what the medical treatment is for a bite.

Not a bad question in itself, but it doesn't exactly instill confidence that he has significant handling experience with aggressive species.

I never saw the other thread so can't comment on it really.

Anyway.. it's not a snake I'd want. I read that article daniel posted, and that bite doesn't sound fun.

WHy don't you get a coach whip or a racer? So if you can handle them without getting bit then your are more than likely ready to take the next step. Good hook training haha:P

haha.. now there's an idea. Coachwhips are nasty buggers.. I've got a kingsnake that's not all that far off though.

There are alot better aggressive snakes to start off with if someone is looking into getting some handling experience.

I love eastern coachwhips...if i can ever find some that are CBB, I will buy a pair in a heartbeat. I have read of people keeping 'tame' coachwhips (mainly westerns).....but I love their feeding responce and their mechanics of biting. Coachwhip bite can be very nasty because when they strike defensively they tend to bite and pull back causing cuts instead of little puncture wounds...ha ha....

Shavemycoinpurse- im clarifying this with you and the others from this thread. I also sent you a pm about it. When I said "people on the other forum" i was NOT refearing to the guys on faunaclassifieds.com. It was toward the guys on ****s.com because when I told them they spend alot of time in there water bowl, they stated going off on me saying I need to lear more, chech up on my husbandry and stuff like that. When I said that thing from the post on this site, it was on 2-11-06 or 2-12-06, the one on the other site that your referring to was on 3-13-06 sorry for the confusion. Any ways, thanks for all the help and like i said at the other site, will take every1s post into concederation.

"In other states (Arizona and California, for example) you can keep only indigenous venomous species of non-protected types."-petplace.com

So, basically anything out of the area and anything on the protected list is not allowed. Also, I doubt if a minor will be allowed to keep a hot. Its really wonderful that you have such aspirations, but you should consider getting some experience under your belt before you move on to the hots. The Coachwhip is a wonderful start if you ask me. Fast little boogers and are known to inflict multiple bites :D

Just my :twocents:

hmm.. now i'm confused. i always considered these snakes hots and not a snake i'd like to own. however, at the last reptile show i went to, there way a guy selling them there. they had a subtle beauty that was strangely intriguing... he let me handle an adult and when i explained that i thought they were venemous he laughed and said, "nope".
now, it would seem he was just being dishonest, but the organizers of the event are very strict in keeping with their rules and the main rule is you cannot sell venemous animals. what's up with this guy selling them then??
anyway, just thought i'd share that the poster isn't the only confused one... then again, there was that post a couple weeks ago about the hognose breeder that was saying they aren't for beginners because they're venemous. that said, a coachwhip or bullsnake would probably be a better choice if you're looking for a larger, aggressive snake.

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Shavemycoinpurse- im clarifying this with you and the others from this thread. I also sent you a pm about it. When I said "people on the other forum" i was NOT refearing to the guys on faunaclassifieds.com. It was toward the guys on ****s.com because when I told them they spend alot of time in there water bowl, they stated going off on me saying I need to lear more, chech up on my husbandry and stuff like that. When I said that thing from the post on this site, it was on 2-11-06 or 2-12-06, the one on the other site that your referring to was on 3-13-06 sorry for the confusion. Any ways, thanks for all the help and like i said at the other site, will take every1s post into concederation.

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Thanks for clarifying.

Don't rush into the FWC's - like others have suggested, find a non-hot that presents a handling challenege. Then work your way into the FWC's - you have plenty of time ahead of you to acquire many interesting species.

I have a friend who keeps FWC's - I can put you in touch with her if you like.

Just let me know.

-Scott