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How Dare He!!

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  • 02-12-2006, 12:26 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: How Dare He!!
    Thanks Cassandra. Not to thread hijack here too much LOL but Camp Hiss ~n~ Slither is ticking along smoothly. Rauri's doing beautifully and spring will see him shipped Texas way. It's been a great experience for us and for the snake. I'm so pleased to know he's going to such a wonderful home with Becky.



    ~~Jo~~
  • 02-12-2006, 03:33 PM
    rabernet
    Re: How Dare He!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Benson_and_Hedges
    But since i got rid of the balls

    Just out of curiosity, did you ever get your balls into the vet since one had the "exploding bm"? Or if not, did you at least inform your friend who's going to sell them, so that she can get it treated and doesn't sell off a sick snake?
  • 02-12-2006, 09:01 PM
    Benson_and_Hedges
    Re: How Dare He!!
    lol, wow i am so not welcome here. Being a new snake owner and only having say, 5 months of "experience" with them i was using this forum as a crutch to help me understand them better. But everytime i come to you for advice and wondering if everything is ok i get criticized. Sorry, i'm not some great herp owner, but i was trying to get better by learning what and what not to do. Yes, i am offended. And no, i'm not posting here ever again. Thanks for the help up until now and no thanks for all the "bad mouthing".

    OH, and by the way the title "How dare he" and calling him a jerk was just my way of being funny. I guess humor isn't welcome here either.
  • 02-12-2006, 09:44 PM
    JLC
    Re: How Dare He!!
    Dear Benson & Hedges...


    I would prefer to address you by a "real" name, but you haven't ever offered one, so far as I know. Which is fine. Some people prefer it that way when interacting on the Internet.

    On behalf of the mods and admins, I would like to let you know that you are not unwelcomed here. Everyone is welcome here, most especially those who want to learn about their animals and are willing to ask for and accept advice.

    I think the main thing is that when dealing with these sorts of "forum" communications, it can be very difficult for some kinds of humor to show. Sometimes you have to know a person very well to be able to tell if they are being humorous or serious when all you have to go by is simple, typed words. Heck, even when you're having a face-to-face conversation, sometimes it's hard to tell when someone is trying to be funny if you don't know them well enough. And to be quite honest, hon...we don't know you very well yet. Your words in this post and in others come across as anything but humorous...which brings out the natural concern and even a bit of "overprotectiveness" some of us have towards the animals we're so passionate about.

    A knee-jerk defensive response to sincere concern and blanket-statements like "obviously humor isn't welcomed here either" does nothing to help anyone learn to take you more seriously or get to know you better.

    People here really do want to help. Out of concern for your animals, we've asked many times for follow-ups on other issues you were so deeply worried about. A complete lack of response to those kinds of questions, and what sometimes appears to be a complete disregard for the actual commitments involved in keeping these animals has many of us concerned. We could be totally off-base with those concerns, but all we have to go by are the words you choose to type here. If we're wrong, we would welcome anything you have to say to show us so. But if all we get is "nobody likes me so I'm not gonna play with you anymore"....well....? What are we supposed to think?

    Please, just consider how things might look to someone who has no knowledge of you except the few brief words you've left here in a very short span of time.

    Whatever you choose to do, we wish you the best of luck.
  • 02-12-2006, 10:33 PM
    rabernet
    Re: How Dare He!!
    Very nicely written Judy, and that's exactly my concern. You chose the words "got rid of" your ball pythons, and it came across as a very casual thing to do, especially with animals that are very likely ill. It appears that you "got rid of them" because you didn't want to deal with their illnessess. We've asked you several times if you ever had them seen by a vet, and you never even acknowledge the question - that raises very serious concerns about your committment to the care and well-being of your animals.


    I personally can't help but wonder if you chose to keep the RTB because it was your boyfriends that he got on the same day that another RTB died in your care and you don't even know what killed it. Was it husbandry related?

    Why did you have to "get rid of" your ball pythons? Wouldn't a better option have been to have your boyfriend take on the responsibility of caring for his own animal in his home and you get to keep your ball pythons?
  • 02-12-2006, 10:47 PM
    iceman25
    Re: How Dare He!!
    While I'm sure that you a very nice person(funny and witty and full of humor and all the good stuff), its your husbandry skills that I do not condone. The fact that it took you five months to get something right with your husbandry given the amount of information that is freely available in this day and age says that you are not doing all you can for these animals.

    You said that you could not afford another tank at the time so you kept your snake in the smaller tank. I also read that you got the second snake to make your boyfriend feel better. Your exact words were "And it's not even my snake he's my BF's. He was very upset about Hector and wanted something new to make him forget and it's done the trick." This only says that getting the new snake and putting it in an unsuitable environment at the time was more about making your boyfriend and you feel better than making the well educated and well prepared choice of getting a companion animal that you would wanna care for the rest of its life. You also did not answer the question on whether or not you took your snakes for a checkup before "getting rid of them." (I think this is a poor choice of words to use on a site named www.ball-pythons.net :rolleyes: )

    I could go on and on like this. If some people including me did not sugar coat it for you or tell you what you wanted to hear instead and it ended up hurting your feelings, I don't know what else to say. I only hope that you don't sour when your boa decides to latch on to you real good one of these days. I sincerely hope that you would stick around though. I would rather see you correct your actions and learn to appreciate these animlas for their splendour instead of giving them up when they violate your terms of owning them.
  • 02-12-2006, 11:37 PM
    iceman25
    Re: How Dare He!!
    One more thing. I think we are a very humorous bunch here. Just not when it comes to bad husbandry. Stick around, take your lickings and ROCK ON! :)
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