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  • 02-09-2006, 01:15 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Help me to understand.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
    I want cinnamon pastels for a project and will eventually pay through the nose for a pair.

    :blowkiss: :w00t: :hump:

    -adam
  • 02-09-2006, 02:03 PM
    jknudson
    Re: Help me to understand.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    :blowkiss: :w00t: :hump:

    -adam

    Whoa! Settle down man!

    Well I guess its okay, that's how you roll, right?:P
  • 02-09-2006, 02:17 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Help me to understand.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JBallPython
    Whoa! Settle down man!

    Well I guess its okay, that's how you roll, right?:P

    LMAO! ... now yer gettin it. ;)

    -adam
  • 02-09-2006, 02:23 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Help me to understand.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    LMAO! ... now yer gettin it. ;)

    -adam

    What? A good leg humping? :P
  • 02-09-2006, 03:20 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Help me to understand.
    That is so helpful Adam. This was your cue to step up and go "Hey! I have cinnamon to sell you really cheap." but do you? Nope.
    sigh.....
  • 02-09-2006, 04:03 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Help me to understand.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
    That is so helpful Adam. This was your cue to step up and go "Hey! I have cinnamon to sell you really cheap." but do you? Nope.
    sigh.....

    Cheap? No comprendo.

    :P

    -adam
  • 02-09-2006, 11:12 PM
    JB_Orchidguy
    Re: Help me to understand.
    I can see what you are saying. I have had Micro Econ in school and pretty much understand the supply and demand thing. I made an A in the class. I just didn't understand how those can start with an elivated price, but I have a grasp of it now. So now after pondering this all day. I am torn. If one day I am able to obtain one of those snakes for 25K would I turn around and sell the babies for 1K each to force peoples prices down. Provided my snakes were of the same quality or even perceived quality, or would I jump on the bandwagon and charge market price. I know that everything is worth what someone will pay for it. You guys just have to realize I don't think like everyone else does so when I start threads like this its not to flame, blast or deface anyone or anything. Its a conversation starter because I want to get others input on the subject.

    Adam I will stop with the speculation on whenterh I may possibly have hets for Pied, but you have to admit there is a chance. Heck I have a chance to win the lotery because I do play at times, and people do win the thing. I could win the BP lotery and have two snakes that were just bread to be bread to get BPs for sale and I lucked up and did manage to get het pied unknowingly. I will stop putting it in my thread untill I hatch some eggs out. I will either be posting a thread with the title along the lines of I have babies, or title it something like I have hit the lottery!! :P

    No matter how good a breeder (I know your a good one because of your fabulous snakes) or how much newbie luck I have. Neither one of us can know one way or the other 100% sure until I sucessfully hatch some hegs and either do or do not get pied snakes. Only time would tell, and if they do not turn out to be then I will be glad to say you were right. All though if I do get pied babies then I would like to be called one lucky SOB :D LOL Thanks everyone
  • 02-09-2006, 11:29 PM
    kavmon
    Re: Help me to understand.
    if you forked out 25k, would you really sell the babies for 1k? my thoughts are that whatever price you choose, one person can't "force" someone else's prices down. unless you had several thousand breeders and really saturated the market. i.e. if you had 20 babies priced way low, you would only have 20 customers. not enough to lower the market. 20,000 babies/customers would be another story! lol interesting topic...

    vaughn
  • 02-09-2006, 11:48 PM
    JB_Orchidguy
    Re: Help me to understand.
    Vaughn You have a point, BUT all it takes is one breeder to get noticed for having good quality snakes at lower than market prices. Then Competition starts. Back when the airline tax expired, but airlines did not lower their prices to reflect the no more tax price. Sales went on for a little while then all it took was one small little carrier to lower prices and every major airline followed suit. If you had one of those 25k Males and good number of females. (provided the male was strong enough and health) it may take a few years, but you would recoup the 25K. As I said I am torn and duno what I would do if given the chance. Breeding snakes is not going to be my business of choice. An Orchid nursery is, but I do want to breed and get a nice collection of morphs. So I will have a small private breeding program going on, but even those can get pretty big and would need to sell off snakes at some point in time. So if someone else or myself was to buy the 25K morph basicly for a collection to have, but bread it along the way and had some spare snakes to sell consitantly that small breeder could easily get a waiting list if he so chose to for his nice snakes and if word spread enough he could potentialy lower the market. Now this is all theoretical, and the big breeders ma not budge out of stuborness. Its all good though. I;m probably the only twisted person who would think about selling babies from a 25K snake for 1K to facilitate the market prices to go down. Because think of it this way. If I was to do that the that means there would be a snake that the finacialy chalenged could buy to breed and the numbers of snakes would increase with each generation definately causeing the prices to lower because of the increase in supply of snakes. IT would just make it easier for the average hobby breeder to obtain these fine speciamans if someone would do something like that.
  • 02-10-2006, 12:00 AM
    kavmon
    Re: Help me to understand.
    good points jb, i like this discussion. here's another viewpoint of mine. let's use the 25k example selling at 1k. if you had 20 or so babies, and let's say there are about 500 people that had money to spend that wanted that snake, who would the other 480 buy from? my thought are that people with money to spend and know what they want aren't going to wait on a list. and i know a few people that would buy up all of the 1k babies in one shot and re-sell them.


    vaughn
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