Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
Well the one up top can;t take the neglect of not being watered for too long. It can have its spells because it has the psudobulbs, but not to the extreme like these other I heards about. I haven;t grown the abuse no water kinds yet. LMAO I water to much. So I adjust my mix and things to help accomidate for my heavy watering sometimes, but even that the Gongora I feel Cassandra could grow once she knew how to do it. I have over 100 ( and thatws a small collection a friend of mine has over 400) orchids and some are picky but many are not. I will have blooms galor in a few months. I have about 13 to 15 plants in spike in the GH
Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
maybe that would be a cool gift for my mom for valentines day.
nice orchids Josh.
Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
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Originally Posted by JB_Orchidguy
Traps are even easier to gro. Full sun inch or so rain water and let it go. Mother nature puts them to sleep and will wake them up. Unless your someplace that freezes up harder than a cave man frozen in ice. No I didnt do this cross. This is one of my first orchids I bought. Its a cross between two species tricolor or another tricolor crossed back to itself. The flowers will look the same as far as shape and size, but the markings and coloration patterns may be different. I have seen 5 sibbling orchids grown in the same greenhouse range in color from orange to pink. Thats why you could have 5 different gongora tricolors and all have different names like Gongora tricolor 'live oak' or Gongora tricolor 'Jeanne' and then say Gongora tricolor 'Red dragon' or something. That way if say your plant gets awarded and its name is Gongora tricolor 'Jeanne' and someone wanted to buy a plant that looked like yours as in having the same exact color patern and colors of your flower they would have to get a devision from you or you would have to get your plant cloned to produce exact copies, because if you say cross your Gongora tricolor 'Jeanne' back upon itself (self polinate) then you will still have Gongora tricolor because its a species crossed back to itself or even another tricolor, but the flowers will still have some variation in them. Some being more red with less green some may have more green depending on the recombination of genes. Then if one of those plants get awarded then you can register another name like say Gopngora tricolor 'green Dragon' if there is alot of green in the offsprings flower. Just helps to seperate the plants down even more than just to species level. So if I got this plant awarded and you want to have a plant just like it then you would look for seedlings that have the name Gongora tricolor "live Oak" ( the " means its a clone) or Gongora tricolor 'Live Oak' (the ' means its a devision of the original plant) If you looked for just say a Gongora tricoor you will get the same flowe same basic shape, but the flowers may not have as good of form or color as mine because its not the same plant, and therefor may not be of award quality. Or better say its not proven award quality. It could be better, but just hasn't recieved an award yet.
If you look at this thread
http://forum.theorchidsource.com/cgi...;f=38;t=003822 you will see 5 different plants from the same seedpod. This is a guy who hybredises and these are 5 of the offspring blooming. Notice that all 5 are different. No say one of those was awarded and someone wanted to buy one of those and they go get a plant that is just the same cross they may not get the same flower look. So to get the same flower color and shape and all you need to get that particular named cross because a sibling or a prodigy will look different.
Just like crossing two BP all the siblings are going to be differently paterned. And like some BP orchids that have proven to pass on certain traits can also demand a very high price.
BTW I did cross this plant back to itself and have the seeds being flasked( a whole nother story on how to grow chids from sed) and as soon as they are big enogh I will get them back. Should be about 25 plants or so. Any more questions just ask. Even about Carnivorous plants. I grow them too. My traps are all dorment at the moment though. A requirment to keep them living more than a few years.
Wow, great info! Thanks! Hehe, although, I had to read it a couple of times to "get" it. Hehehe. Please keep the pics coming, those are the prettiest flowers I have ever seen.....
Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
sorry for the loose lipped explination I normaly need to get my ideas out on paper then reread it a couple of times to make it flow. That was all off the top of my head. I hope the website with the 5 different sibblings helped the explination. Thanks Mr Python. I think an Orchid would make a perfect gift for Vday. Just start off with something from Lowes or Home depot those are beiner orchids and shold be easy to reflower. Will not find a gongora there though, but other pretty orchids.
Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
The top one is very cool.
I don't know what they're called, but there's an orchid species that has long petals that twist around.. it's very exotic looking.
Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...BulboLobii.jpg
This one comes from a group of orchids that normally smell of rotten flesh to attract the fly to pollinate them. Luckily this one doesn't;t stink.
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...oNewberry2.jpg
This is a first time bloomer that smells of black licorice and give me a headache if I give a big smell. Look pretty though
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ripJune004.jpg
This is a Paphiopedilum at one of my favorite Greenhouses to visit. The petals of this flower suposedly continue to elongate if they do not hit something. That way ants can easily climb to the flower to polinate it.
Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
April are you refuring to the last picture I just posted> Those are paphiopedilums they are one of the slipper orchids and suposedly a beginner orchid. Most anyways. Not all Paphs though have the long petals so you need to know species or hybred to look for. I like them too. I think I have one, but its still to small to bloom. The biggest and baddest Paph is called Paph Rothschildianum http://www.orchidspecies.com/paphrothchildianum.htm
and is known as the grand daddy of all Paph Also not a beginner from what I gather, but still can be managed by a novice I think. Heck thats all I am. I only have 3 years growing under the belt. This paph has a huge flower, but also slow to grow and expencive. can take up to 7 years for a seedling to get big enough to flower. I bought one in a 3 inch pot for 30 bucks. Thats about 3 times more than average seedlings. Also a flowering sized plant can run a pretty price. I would say mine has about 3 to 4 more years before I see any blooms. But thats what you have to do if you want to spend as less as possible.
Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
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Originally Posted by JB_Orchidguy
sorry for the loose lipped explination I normaly need to get my ideas out on paper then reread it a couple of times to make it flow. That was all off the top of my head. I hope the website with the 5 different sibblings helped the explination. Thanks Mr Python. I think an Orchid would make a perfect gift for Vday. Just start off with something from Lowes or Home depot those are beiner orchids and shold be easy to reflower. Will not find a gongora there though, but other pretty orchids.
No man! It wasn't you, it was me, genetics in general get me discombobbled.... or is that discombobulated..... ;) I am sure you get the idea. But after I read it again, I put 2 and 2 together... just takes a few minutes to sink it, thats all. I have been cruising that site, wow, nifty info, book marked it for more use. Now you really got my interest.... although, I may actually give something like this a try! Where do you get beefy orchids? Got any more links to share for me to find EVEN MORE info?
Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
That is very similar to what I was thinking of. The flower I saw had a tight twist to the long petals.
That plant is awesome!
Re: As Promised a few Orchid pictures.
Jeanne here is the online orchid species encyclopedia. It is alomst a complete list of orchid SPECIES. Not hybreds between species. The only hybred that is on there is Paph sedenii and I think it may be a natural hybred that might be why its in there.
http://www.orchidspecies.com/
This is a good orchid site that has some good info and it telle you what the hybred abreviations mean and what it takes to make that kind of hybred.
http://www.orchidlady.com/
This is the America orchid society's webpage.
http://orchidweb.org/aos/default.aspx
This is another good info site
http://retirees.uwaterloo.ca/~jerry/orchids/names.html
RHS website Royal horticulture society
http://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/registration_orchids.asp
This is another good forum on Orchids too.
http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchidtalk/forum.php
April would the one your talking about look something like this one?
http://forum.theorchidsource.com/cgi...;f=38;t=003779
or
http://forum.theorchidsource.com/cgi...=001748#000000
There are many different paphs and who knows you may be talking about one of the antilope types of Dendrobiums os something else that has twisted petals April there are alot.
