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  • 01-30-2006, 10:26 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Gay or something????
    There is no such thing as a 'gay' ball python. Ball pythons are not sexually dimorphic (males and females look alike), so they rely on smells to 'detect' members of the opposite sex. These males don't just go out and look for other males to breed....and why would a breeder try to purposely breed two males together. Male ball pythons breeding other male ball pythons can occur if the breeding environment is provided ,the snakes become 'confused' and two males are housed together. The only two reasons that I can think of housing two male ball pythons together during breeding season is 1) to initiate 'competition' between a male that is breeding strong and a male that is not breeding in order to get the non-breeding male interested in the ladies and 2) the breeder missexed a male and thought it was a female. In both situations a male that has been prepared for breeding is placed in a enclosure with another male...the female odors are probably present on one male or the other and they just do their thing....it is not like they have hands and a set of probes to check first ;)
  • 01-30-2006, 10:28 PM
    amg20102006
    Re: Gay or something????
    Good points everyone. Is the breeding video any good? Alos what kind of incobator does everyone use for ball pythons?
  • 01-30-2006, 10:31 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Gay or something????
    The video is good.....and all kinds of incubators are used.....it depends on if you want to make one or if you want to buy one.....the most important thing is that you have a good thermostat like a herpstat or helix to run the incubator.
  • 01-30-2006, 10:32 PM
    amg20102006
    Re: Gay or something????
    I noticed on your website that you said you have one. Wich do you have daniel?
  • 01-30-2006, 10:35 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Gay or something????
    I have a little Hovabator....but it will not be used for ball python eggs. It will be used for other critter eggs :) I plan to build a nice incubator that can hold alot of clutches before next breeding season for my ball python eggs.
  • 01-31-2006, 03:12 AM
    MedusasOwl
    Re: Gay or something????
    Actually, though most animals are bi, there have been studies and observations in regards to predominantly homosexual animals too... More so amongst animals that mate for life though. You might be interested in this book Biological Exuberance : Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity which is a very fascinating read on the subject. Chances are good you can find it at the library. I don't recall if there was a section on reptiles though, but I doubt it. They tend to be opportunistic and not have any particular preferences one way or the other.

    Excellent book though, I highly recommend it. I always refer people to it when they go telling me that homosexuality is "unnatural."
  • 01-31-2006, 12:02 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Gay or something????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by amg20102006
    I am talking about when people say that their male iosnt interested in the females and that they will only lock up with males . . .

    Those idiots don't know what they're doing or what they're talking about.

    A dominant male will breed anything you put him in with ... other males, females, water bowls ... it doesn't matter to him ... when he gets the "urge" then he gets er done. If a female isn't receptive to a male, she won't copulate with him.

    Real breeders know how to make their males horny and their females receptive to the males ... They know all of the little "tricks" ... but sometimes even then there are duds ...

    The POSERS just flounder around and never "get it" when it comes to breeding ... they cry about "gay males" and "reabsorbed follicles" and whatever else they need to blame their troubles on to not feel like an idiot.

    Be careful who you take advice from on the internet ... there are POSERS everywhere in the ball python world ... lots of people out there giving advice about breeding and they've never even bred ball pythons before ... or advice about husbandry and all they own is a leopard gecko … LAME!

    Trust the big breeders ... NERD, RDR, VPI, RKR, etc ... these are the MASTERS that have turned hobby into profession because they know what they're talking about! ;)

    -adam
  • 01-31-2006, 12:09 PM
    Smulkin
    Re: Gay or something????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    A dominant male will breed anything you put him in with ... ...water bowls ... it doesn't matter to him ....

    OK now THAT explains why the watercooler here at work has been looking so so fine . . . and why they won't let me near it anymore :S
  • 01-31-2006, 12:10 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Gay or something????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Smulkin
    OK now THAT explains why the watercooler here at work has been looking so so fine . . . and why they won't let me near it anymore :S


    LMAO!

    -adam
  • 01-31-2006, 12:44 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Gay or something????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Smulkin
    OK now THAT explains why the watercooler here at work has been looking so so fine . . . and why they won't let me near it anymore :S

    Back away from the break room! :twisted:
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