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  • 01-08-2006, 12:49 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Quarantine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by alexrls
    is that different than RI?

    Yes and no. Same idea, just more serious.

    -adam
  • 01-08-2006, 12:55 AM
    bait4snake
    Re: Quarantine
    I'm still quarantining my Albino ball... he's like the bubble boy the way I protect him, lol. I can only imagine what I'll be like when that first Pied comes home.
    I know this isn't quarantining, I'm just trying to be funny. Look at the tap-dancing monkey!
  • 01-09-2006, 01:55 AM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Quarantine
    honestly, question here:

    if you are quarantining a snake which is going to live alone... then keeping it in the same room isn't quarantining it... is it???
  • 01-09-2006, 02:16 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Quarantine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recycling goddess
    honestly, question here:

    if you are quarantining a snake which is going to live alone... then keeping it in the same room isn't quarantining it... is it???

    What does the snake living alone have to do with anything?

    If you don't have the extra space, you can quarantine in the same room with a solid protocol that prevents transference from the quarantine snake or snakes to the main collection. It's not ideal, but if it's the only option, it can be made to work.

    -adam
  • 01-09-2006, 02:23 AM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Quarantine
    Quarantining should be done in a separate building, or as far away from the existing collection as possible. Different air space is preferred.

    When I get my boa, Ruari, in the next few months, he will be quarantined at my school for 3 months. It's a great place because my teacher, the vet, lives on the premises :) Gotta love it.

    It's very important that a completely separate air space is used. You never know what can be floating in the air, on your clothes, etc. It's not really quarantining if it's not done in a different building.
  • 01-09-2006, 09:30 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Quarantine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SatanicIntention
    Quarantining should be done in a separate building, or as far away from the existing collection as possible. Different air space is preferred.

    When I get my boa, Ruari, in the next few months, he will be quarantined at my school for 3 months. It's a great place because my teacher, the vet, lives on the premises :) Gotta love it.

    It's very important that a completely separate air space is used. You never know what can be floating in the air, on your clothes, etc. It's not really quarantining if it's not done in a different building.

    I agree totally, but not everyone has that luxury. Some people have a hard enough time find space for snakes in one building, let alone two.

    -adam
  • 01-09-2006, 02:28 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Quarantine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    What does the snake living alone have to do with anything?

    If you don't have the extra space, you can quarantine in the same room with a solid protocol that prevents transference from the quarantine snake or snakes to the main collection. It's not ideal, but if it's the only option, it can be made to work.

    -adam

    well i know that quarantining mice before you add them to the mouse group, ratties are the same... keeping them seperated while you make sure they are healthy.

    what i meant here adam is... if your ball python is going to living in it's own enclosure (as it should) then how is it considered quarantining if they are in the same room?

    sorry but i'm not understanding...

    so, if you just wear gloves and handle the new quarantined snake last every time you go into the 'snake area' - then that's a sufficient quarantine?

    (i think i'm getting it, but perhaps someone can confirm for me) cause really... i'm quite sure i'll be adding to my addiction sooner or later...
  • 01-09-2006, 02:45 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Quarantine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recycling goddess
    well i know that quarantining mice before you add them to the mouse group, ratties are the same... keeping them seperated while you make sure they are healthy.

    what i meant here adam is... if your ball python is going to living in it's own enclosure (as it should) then how is it considered quarantining if they are in the same room?

    sorry but i'm not understanding...

    so, if you just wear gloves and handle the new quarantined snake last every time you go into the 'snake area' - then that's a sufficient quarantine?

    (i think i'm getting it, but perhaps someone can confirm for me) cause really... i'm quite sure i'll be adding to my addiction sooner or later...

    Well, ideally, everyone would have a separate building or at a minimum, a separate room to quarantine new arrivals in. Unfortunately, that may not be a practical solution for your average keeper that wants a new snake. So instead of throwing your hands up in the air and saying screw it, I won't get a new snake or I won't quarantine, you can be responsible and do the best that you can given your situation. I feel at least some type of procedure for minimizing cross contamination between new arrivals and an established collection is still technically quarantine, but maybe just not in the strictest sense of the word.

    Setting new arrivals up in their own separate rack, cleaning new arrivals last or on a different day, using gloves when handling new arrivals, having duplicate sets of husbandry tools for new arrivals, etc, are all good practices that for the most part will be highly effective in protecting your existing animals when bringing new animals into your collection. Is it ideal? No. But it’s certainly better than just throwing them in the same rack with animals that you’ve had for years and doing nothing.

    The other important thing to consider is your source. Buying animals from a reputable breeder with a proven track record, while not totally infallible, helps. Shoot, I have a totally separate facility for quarantining my animals 20 miles away from my shop and I still won't buy stuff off of tables at show because I'm terrified of contaminating my quarantined animals.

    -adam
  • 01-09-2006, 10:44 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Quarantine
    thanks adam :)
  • 01-09-2006, 10:56 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Quarantine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    .....I still won't buy stuff off of tables at show because I'm terrified of contaminating my quarantined animals.

    LMAO....I could really see you with all these different levels of quarantine.

    FOF....<Adam talking to a ball python> "I guess you have been here a month with no problems, now you can move up to quarantine containment area 4"

    ....I keep my new arrivals (getting two more wednesday BTW) in a different level of the rack with a 1 level buffer) and have a strict handling/cleaning practice......ha ha....I know my brother is going to feel lucky when my collection gets big enough that I must have a seperate quarantine facility.....cause anything new will be staying at his place ;)

    ...and how do you keep quarantined animals from effecting one another....I have gotten/will be getting three new bps within a weeks time from two sources? The pastel guy from Sean.....and two normal females from Ben Seigel. Not having alot of room is horrible for quarantine purposes....good thing the snakes are coming from good sources....I would be freaking out bringing in something WC or from a breeder with problems....actually that will never happen until I get a seperate place to quarantine
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