Would anyone really feel they need better odds than that JUST to be sure?
When you're potentially talking about a breeder that has spent years building their passion into a profitable livelihood in a business where reputation is EVERYTHING, I would think so.
This is just a hobby for me, and I know I certainly would. I couldn't imagine how "sure" I'd want to be if presenting a flawed conclusion would potentially mean finding another way to feed my family. Talk about a gut check!
I've seen how odds can swing wildly in a single season and I know that I certainly wouldn't jump for joy after one seasons breedings no matter how many actual all spider clutches I produced. I might let a certain close circle of friends know about my success, but astronomical odds or not, I certainly would need another breeding season JUST to be sure.
-adam
01-06-2006, 12:19 AM
RandyRemington
Re: Pastel Question
But mathematically they can NEVER be 100% sure. So if professional breeders depend on being absolutely sure then they will never be able to tell us. I guess we'll just have to wait until the small breeders have the public domain data to decide for ourselves.
01-06-2006, 12:23 AM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: Pastel Question
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Originally Posted by RandyRemington
But mathematically they can NEVER be 100% sure. So if professional breeders depend on being absolutely sure then they will never be able to tell us. I guess we'll just have to wait until the small breeders have the public domain data to decide for ourselves.
So I guess you never just go with your gut?
For me, there's a HUGE difference between mathematical probability and just "knowing" in your gut. It might not be the most logical thing in the world, but sometimes, instinct just “feels better” … when you know you know.
Can't wait for your super spider project results Randy! They should be quite compelling! :P
-adam
01-06-2006, 01:01 AM
daniel1983
Re: Pastel Question
Like someone would sell a 3-5 yr old spider that produces only spiders....and it is not like they would look different than regulars at hatching.....so basically it would be luck of the draw right?
Unless a pair of homozygous spiders were proven and only produced homozygous spiders in breeding....I guess that I really don't see what the fuss is all about.
01-06-2006, 01:11 AM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: Pastel Question
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
Like someone would sell a 3-5 yr old spider that produces only spiders....and it is not like they would look different than regulars at hatching.....so basically it would be luck of the draw right?
Not really .... you could systematically work to determine whether or not you have a super spider. I would think that the easiest way would be to raise up a group of males from one or more spider x spider breedings ... then breed each to a normal female or two (you wouldn't want to waste a whole lot of normal girls because odds are that most of the male spiders will just be normal spiders) ... then, if any of the males sired all spider clutches, breed those males again in the following year(s) to larger groups of normal females until there is enough conclusive evidence that you in fact have a super spider.
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
Unless a pair of homozygous spiders were proven and only produced homozygous spiders in breeding....I guess that I really don't see what the fuss is all about.
I think the fuss is about the value that a super spider brings to a professional breeders collection. Producing normals STINKS if you are breeding for profit. The ability to upgrade your breeder spider males to super spiders has a huge impact on your profit margins!
-adam
01-06-2006, 01:22 AM
daniel1983
Re: Pastel Question
I guess having one of those as a breeder would kick it....
Imagine Super Spider x Super Pastel.......only Bumblebees ;)
01-06-2006, 01:26 AM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: Pastel Question
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
I guess having one of those as a breeder would kick it....
Imagine Super Spider x Super Pastel.......only Bumblebees ;)
BEL x super spider = heaven!
-adam
01-06-2006, 01:29 AM
daniel1983
Re: Pastel Question
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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
BEL x super spider = heaven!
I think that I understand the fuss now ;)
How come I never hear any talk of possible Super Pins? ....I guess Randy has just been busy :D j/k
01-06-2006, 07:40 AM
rabernet
Re: Pastel Question
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
BEL x super spider = heaven!
-adam
I think it's too early in the morning and I haven't had enough coffee yet. Racking my brain here, but coming up blank - BEL? Can a girl get a little help? :weirdface
