Pic of my ball pythons

how long have they been in the same enclosure? i was just wandering because we just got a female ball (shes still in quarintine) with the intentions of putting her in with our other ball. we said something about it on another site and everyone freaked out and got really upset with us. we asked our vet and a few breeders before purchasing her and they all said it was perfectly fine.

oh yeah what sex are yours?

From the threads I've read on here you'll get flammed for sayign you want to or do keep more hten one ball python in one enclosure. I've had my 3 ball pythons kept together for over a week, but before hand my new arrivals were kept a 60 gallon tank with 2 red tail boas, and a coastal carpet. The coastal was more the hald the ball pythons size (they're abotu 3-4 feet) and the boas were much bigger ( 5-6 feet) they all were in their own little "groups" in the tank.

My balls have a fairly large hide my bally python stayed in there alone fine and now he has two others in there and they're getting along fine. In my circle of informents there is no problem with keeping more hten one in a tank, you are of course risking certain health concerns for you're snakes in doing so.
After quarentineing them, try putting them together and at the first sign of aggression I'd separate them.
I go by how they react, casue each ball python has it's own prefference in my opinion and their own personality too, again in my opinion.

Best of luck and have a good one :)

Ashley

Are two males and one female.

thanx! we are going to let them meet and play together outside there enclosures a few times before we actualy put them in the same one. then we will be sure to keep an eye on them

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Originally Posted by kaosu_jouen

From the threads I've read on here you'll get flammed for sayign you want to or do keep more hten one ball python in one enclosure. I've had my 3 ball pythons kept together for over a week, but before hand my new arrivals were kept a 60 gallon tank with 2 red tail boas, and a coastal carpet. The coastal was more the hald the ball pythons size (they're abotu 3-4 feet) and the boas were much bigger ( 5-6 feet) they all were in their own little "groups" in the tank.




Ashley

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And that was all super bad husbandry, how stupid do you have to be to put all those differnt snakes together ?!?! They were in all of thier "little groups" becuase they were forced to be, not becuase they enjoyed it....some people just dont get it.....this is not good for your snakes at all. Personally i wouldent have even bought those snakes from that person who sold them to you. He obviously had no idea what he was doing, that is just ridiculous, if you are totally convinced that this is okay, then do it, but you have a couple people here that have probly been keeping snakes (the right way) for a much longer time than you have advising you not to do this for the animals sake.

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From the threads I've read on here you'll get flammed for sayign you want to or do keep more hten one ball python in one enclosure.

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No one is flaming you, just trying to prevent an accident and do what's best for the animals involved.

(DISCLAIMER: I'm about to use someone else's saying here, just in a different way... no offense implied)

Hey Ashley... I have a German Shepherd Dog. She's about 10 months old, and once a day, I let her have a 1/2 cup of water, and I feed her two cups of Science Diet every other day. Sure, she's a little slim, but she doesn't need all kinds of muscles and fat build up on her because she spends about 20 to 22 hours a day locked up in her crate, or chained up outside. She seems really happy and she gets really excited when I let her out of her crate or when someone winds up petting her. We try to walk her at least once a month or so, whether she needs it or not. I figure, Science Diet is a great food that vets recommend, so I must be doing everything right!

Oh, I forgot to mention that she has tics covering her from snout to tail, but she seems to get along with them just fine. She even plays with them every once in a while. Scratching them off.... who would ever think that, she's just petting them!!

(Other DISCLAIMER: Of course I would never do this to any living animal, and if I ever asked for anyone's advice, or had it volunteered to me, I would always take it, even if I didn't agree with it, and not argue with the new "friends" I was trying to make by saying "This is what I've always done, and I'm gonna keep on doin it, so don't try to stop me!")

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I know snakes are solitary. But since Vinny was housed with another snake since he was very young and has always been since and the other two were housed together AND with two different breeds of snake I highly doubt thre will be a problem. They're doing amazing together now and seem quite content. they have a 40 gallon tank, so can roam as they please, but the choose to stay together.
some species of snake come together and hibernate in large clusters and breed that was sometimes too.

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They are not puppy dogs. I know they seem very cute when they are all snuggled together but do not make the mistake of assuming that this is a sign of affection or snake love or something else. They are not capable of these and you should seperate them without subjecting them to this ill husbandry anymore. I know there are a lot of breeders and vets out there who will irresponsibly tell you to house them together and they are a part of the problem. I hope you will do your research a little better before blindly taking their advice. There are some big name breeders who frequent this forum and they will tell you to house your snakes in different enclosures. Welcome to the forums and happy herping :)

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From the threads I've read on here you'll get flammed for sayign you want to or do keep more hten one ball python in one enclosure.

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If "flaming" is telling you what you obviously don't want to hear, than so be it. The reality is that the people on this message board are all very experienced and knowledgeable about ball pythons and they're just trying to help.

There are lots of guides and care sheets for ball pythons on the internet ... some are written by experienced keepers and some are written by novices like yourself ... and even though I am sure that they are all written with the best intentions, some of them give some pretty bad advice.

Here at ball-pythons.net, there is a community of passionate, knowledgeable, REAL PEOPLE, that love their animals and are genuinely trying to help. A care sheet is one persons opinion, but here you have experienced keeper after experienced keeper urging you to keep your snakes in separate enclosures for their own benefit.

At 19 years old, with only a small fraction of the combined experience of all of the people posting on this site, why would you disagree?

-adam

I differ on a lot of the opinions expressed on this site, but I've also learned so much from it. That said, I also believe you should separate these snakes. Just because the person you bought the snake from was treating them terribly, doesn't mean you should. You bought these snakes and therefore have a responsibility to them to give them the best possible housing conditions. Not the conditions that best fit your ideas or your schedule or your finances, but one that they can be happy and healthy in.

Sharing an enclosure is extremely stressful to snakes. They are SOLITARY animals in the wild, only coming together to mate. The reason they are cuddling in the same hide together? It's because they're competing for the best hot spot. Only one is able to get it (the dominant one) and the others, therefore, are suffering. The reason they're always together: same thing. Always competing. In such a small space (40 gallon is enough for ONE) there are only so many prime spots for basking and cooling down. They don't like each other... trust me. They're fighting constantly, in their own way.

Another thing: keeping that female in with two males, especially if she's not ready to breed, could be extremely dangerous. If she becomes gravid, it's entirely possible that it could weaken he so much that she could die.

Speaking of dying: keeping these three snakes together is just asking for disease problems. What happens when one gets sick? How are you going to tell which one has worms when their poo is all gross? You'll have to take all of them to the vet, tripling your bill (this is also a good reason your friend's ball shouldn't visit, too).

Just because one website says something, doesn't make it right. If you would check out other sites on the net (I have a whole slew of links on my website---www.buckeyegecko.com/caresheets.htm) you'll find that most people tell you not to keep them together.

And, I hate to tell you this, but the guy ripped you off. You didn't get a golden ball, and you really didn't get a pastel. They're all beautiful snakes, don't get me wrong, and the one looks to be high gold, but they're all just very pretty normals (but then, what do you expect from a guy that's keeping two BPs in with RTBs and a carpet---he really ticks me off).

I'm just trying to relay the facts to you. It's not my opinion. It's the truth. Please, for their sake, get them their own enclosures (it can be as simply as a plastic tub with holes in it---how expensive is that????). Don't be another reptile owner that won't listen to facts.