Attaching a CHE lamp - Screen Top Glass 40 gallon Tank

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Snakes are entitled to their own opinions too, lol...:snake: They don't read the manuals, much less abide by them.

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This might be the only point I have ever disagreed with you on, she has a lengthy post on Xanga, I just didn't tell her it is a dead media.

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Originally Posted by e_nigma

This might be the only point I have ever disagreed with you on, she has a lengthy post on Xanga, I just didn't tell her it is a dead media.

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:rofl: I can live with that... :rofl:

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Originally Posted by e_nigma

Bah, I want to give the weight of the lamp... the weight it deserves. It likely will not/could not move.. it isn't OCD, perhaps being hidden under a table through the 1989 Quake in Cali did it, I recall my home.. we lost every dish plate, glass, and anything fragile... Bay Area. It should be safe to simply place the CHE lamp above? Luckily, I work form home, for now, I will temp check her tank and also it might take me a fair bit to be comfortable with an unsecured lamp, but I trust if the majority do it, I might simply be overly sensitive and overly worried
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I agree it would be safer to attach the lamps. I don't worry much about mine as (a) I don't live on such shaky ground anymore, & (b) while I use up to 7 such warming lights in winter, they are dimmed down pretty low...they're not serious "heat lamps", just supplemental warmth for spoiled rat snakes that like to sleep in their "tree houses"....:D

That couldn't have been fun dealing with all that broken glass...:( I actually had nothing break, for all the hard shaking we had, & I didn't live far from desert epicenter. But one thing I did BEFORE they happened was to install rubber 'peel & stick' weatherstripping on the bottom edges of all my glass tanks, and without that, I'm quite sure some would have slid off their cabinets & crashed (snakes & all). By coincidence, there was a 5 pt. pre-quake that showed me how much my tanks could slide, so I had weatherstripped all of them months before we had a serious earthquake...whew! Been using the stuff ever since, so anything short of the house actually up-ending, they're pretty safe...

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

I agree it would be safer to attach the lamps. I don't worry much about mine as (a) I don't live on such shaky ground anymore, & (b) while I use up to 7 such warming lights in winter, they are dimmed down pretty low...they're not serious "heat lamps", just supplemental warmth for spoiled rat snakes that like to sleep in their "tree houses"....:D

That couldn't have been fun dealing with all that broken glass...:( I actually had nothing break, for all the hard shaking we had, & I didn't live far from desert epicenter. But one thing I did BEFORE they happened was to install rubber 'peel & stick' weatherstripping on the bottom edges of all my glass tanks, and without that, I'm quite sure some would have slid off their cabinets & crashed (snakes & all). By coincidence, there was a 5 pt. pre-quake that showed me how much my tanks could slide, so I had weatherstripped all of them months before we had a serious earthquake...whew! Been using the stuff ever since, so anything short of the house actually up-ending, they're pretty safe...

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I recall, as a kid, being sequestered, and waa made very unwelcome in the kitchen! Too much debris!

Thank you for all your responses, I will give an unsecured lamp ago, where else may it go? If the ultimate earthquake happens.. well, I watched enough Stargate and always wanted to be a host, Gou'uld incoming.

Thank you for your advice and humoring me!

I will try the CHE and monitor it hourly.

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Hi. A pig pannel is 20' x 5' with 2" spacing alone the bottom an 8" after 2' or so. It's used to pen pigs up. Cattle panels have 8" spacing the entire length. I just cut up old ones or scrap. I bought an old farm so I have junk :D I've also used dog kennel panels. Any stiff squared mesh will work. Just cut to length. I use wire (scrap electric fence) to secure the dome to the grid. I have used safety wire, pop rivets, an hot glue to secure the grid to the screen top.

Something like this without the dip:
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Panel-S...8761305&sr=8-1

If it wasn't for the lockdown you could find a grid for .25 at Good Will or a yard sale.

One friends that's OCD saw the panel my kid uses over the turtle tank. She had to tig clips onto the screen frame, grind the panel perfect an powder coat everything. My 8yo asked me if the turtles cared :rofl:She thanked my friend but won't let her see her snake set ups.


Small pig panel, you don't need it. I just have them.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...ft-l-x-34-in-h

Good luck!

I have a few Zilla (I believe) heat lamps, they use a metal ring that goes around the lamp then hooks with springs onto my screen tops.

I have the heavy duty tops you can buy separate. They hold the lamp on to the top even if I remove the top.

Look like this:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...NiWewx=s910-no

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...BBBKb0=s910-no

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Originally Posted by e_nigma

As a sidenote, with the current setup, 92 on hot side, 73 cold side, 4 hides, 1 large water dish, 2 of the hides are single entry and 2 are half logs, she is determined to make the half log her home and I am tired of thinking otherwise! Humidity stays about 50% plus, I occasionally mist, two hygrometers/thermometers, spaced to be one on each end of the tank.

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You need to drop that hot side a bit and up your cool side quite a bit. Hot spot shouldn't be over 90 at max and you want your ambient to be closer to 80. I had a heat lamp that clipped onto the screen top with several clips and that seemed quite sturdy.

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Originally Posted by e_nigma

As a sidenote, with the current setup, 92 on hot side, 73 cold side, 4 hides, 1 large water dish, 2 of the hides are single entry and 2 are half logs, she is determined to make the half log her home and I am tired of thinking otherwise! Humidity stays about 50% plus, I occasionally mist, two hygrometers/thermometers, spaced to be one on each end of the tank.

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92 is too hot, you want it 88-89 and 73 is way too cool, it needs to be 80-81. It would be much easier controlling those temps in a smaller tank, if your snake is less than 2000grams they do NOT need to be a 40gallon tank.


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Originally Posted by GoingPostal

You need to drop that hot side a bit and up your cool side quite a bit. Hot spot shouldn't be over 90 at max and you want your ambient to be closer to 80. I had a heat lamp that clipped onto the screen top with several clips and that seemed quite sturdy.

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Much appreciated, I will adjust accordingly, might have also temp checked the top of the hide and not the ground. Ground temp under the lamp sitting at ~88 - 90. Cooler side is probably too cool, will prioritize bumping that up and ensuring the ambient is closer to 80. Thank you! I am going to jury some hooks and get things back ship shape. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by sophia_carguillo

92 is too hot, you want it 88-89 and 73 is way too cool, it needs to be 80-81. It would be much easier controlling those temps in a smaller tank, if your snake is less than 2000grams they do NOT need to be a 40gallon tank.


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Adjusting temps accordingly, probably temp gunned the top of the hide, ground temp on hot side reads as 88 - 90. I am currently working on bumping up the cool side and ambient. I monitor it regularly and have not seen the cool side dip quite so low, or maybe poor temp gunning on my part. Either way, I appreciate the response and am working on rectifying the temperatures across the tank. Thank you for the advice!

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This is exactly what my old lamp has, I am currently going to jury rig my own set of hooks and possibly a ring to secure it to the top. Thank you!