Vet bills from breeding

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Originally Posted by 303_enfield

Will she be able to breed again? Or is just your pet now?

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The vet said she will be able to breed again if I choose and she may even double clutch this year on her own. I'm trying to avoid a double clutch. Even if I wanted to breed her again, she is still getting next year of at the very least. Or I may decide just to keep her as pet only, that is all still TBD.

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Originally Posted by 67temp

...I'm trying to avoid a double clutch...

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Do tell? How does one "avoid" or discourage a double clutch? My goofy FL rat snake ladies do that every year...neither has ever bred...I have yet to find the "off-switch". :rolleyes: (they're about 12 years old now)

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Do tell? How does one "avoid" or discourage a double clutch? My goofy FL rat snake ladies do that every year...neither has ever bred...I have yet to find the "off-switch". :rolleyes: (they're about 12 years old now)

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At least with corns I have seen mention their breeding cycles are very in tune with feedings. If their bodies sense food is plentiful then they may double.

Last year was was my first year breeding. My first clutch after she laid I went back to feeding her once every 5-7 days to help get the weight back on her. She doubled.

My 2nd clutch last year and the 7 I've had this year I changed the post lay feedings and have yet to have a double. Now I do a small fuzzy post laying just to get a small meal in her. Then I let her go blue and shed. Once she has shed I do roughly a 10 day feed cycle with a small mouse for the next two months. After that is when I will start bulking for brumation.

Though some animals may double no matter what you do.

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Originally Posted by 67temp

At least with corns I have seen mention their breeding cycles are very in tune with feedings. If their bodies sense food is plentiful then they may double.

Last year was was my first year breeding. My first clutch after she laid I went back to feeding her once every 5-7 days to help get the weight back on her. She doubled.

My 2nd clutch last year and the 7 I've had this year I changed the post lay feedings and have yet to have a double. Now I do a small fuzzy post laying just to get a small meal in her. Then I let her go blue and shed. Once she has shed I do roughly a 10 day feed cycle with a small mouse for the next two months. After that is when I will start bulking for brumation.

Though some animals may double no matter what you do.

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My un-bred rat snakes shouldn't even be laying eggs at all, much less doubling, lol...but after they lay 2 dozen+ eggs I have to admit I'd feel funny about reducing their food, but I'll sure consider that. I agree, & it makes sense, that when food is plentiful their bodies respond -though in the long-run, over-populating an area would seem more likely to result -ultimately- in food shortages rather than abundance? I suspect mine just might be "doublers" no matter what I do, lol. Silly sneks.

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Originally Posted by 67temp

While she was under the vet attempted to scope her to see if the cervix could be massaged and remove the egg without surgery. She was to swollen from the two rounds of oxytocin and trying to push it out on her own. The vet opted for surgery. He made an incision on her side about 2" forward of her cloaca, then an incision in the oviduct to remove the egg. Her oviduct and side both got sutured up.

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Another question...

When they make an incision, do they do it between the scales?, cut the scales? remove the scales?

And how about when they stitch up the exterior part of her?

This is just interesting stuff to me, hope I'm not bugging you.

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Originally Posted by Gocntry

Another question...

When they make an incision, do they do it between the scales?, cut the scales? remove the scales?

And how about when they stitch up the exterior part of her?

This is just interesting stuff to me, hope I'm not bugging you.

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I think it depends greatly on the vet & their skills & preferences. I haven't needed any snake surgeries for some years now...I'm sure they've made progress too, just like in other medical areas. I've heard of them trying to go between the scales but that seems like it would be pretty challenging.

@67temp do you have a pic of her incision?

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Originally Posted by Gocntry

Another question...

When they make an incision, do they do it between the scales?, cut the scales? remove the scales?

And how about when they stitch up the exterior part of her?

This is just interesting stuff to me, hope I'm not bugging you.

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Sorry for the delay and lack of pic quality, she is going blue and I'm trying not to disturb her much. I can't tell how the incision was done due to the scab and sutures. I believe the stitches were through the scales.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a0cd4882f0.jpg

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Are you going to remove the stiches? Been over seven days, unless the pic is old. Or will the Vet do it an give you another bill? Some Vets, the recheck was rolled in the first bill. Others like to charge again an again.

Incision looks good an clean. One of the things I worry about when reptiles are cut on. Even if the cage is sterile the reptile holds all kinds of bacteria like E. coli.

Love her colors, hope she makes a 100% recovery.

Good luck!

Sometimes they use dissolving sutures too, so they just mostly fall out on their own by the time it's healed. I've not had a vet charge again for the re-check, but I guess
you cannot assume.